As state agencies target bans on commercial urine and attractants, Jason engages in conversation with one of the nations leading biochemists, Dr. Davin Henderson, on the fact that the real science lacks a single case where deer were infected with CWD by giving them urine. Although A recent Pennsylvania Game Commission vote on a urine ban died on the vine with a 4-4 tie, Commissioners promise to keep trying. We ask: Where's the science to support your claims?