On this episode of Neon Galactic, I’m joined by two prominent UFO researchers and activists to discuss the recent disclosures of whistleblower Jake Barber on NewsNation, as well as this broader moment in ufology when the world anticipates the new term of Donald Trump and what that means for the subject and the world.

Daniel Elizondo, co-author of Loose Threads and a well-respected researcher, and Nick Gold, UAP political strategist  and founder of Declassify UAP, discuss the Barber story and how it fits within the broader UFO narrative.

We talk about where Ross Coulthart’s piece moved the conversation forward, and where it lacked important pieces of the puzzle.

We also talked about the story’s implications, both for experiencers and the general public, with “psionic” operators being deployed as government assets in the search for UFOs.

Does this explain the feeling some experiencers have expressed of being targeted by intelligence operatives?

We also discuss the apparent battle for technology and information between old guard corporations within the military industrial complex, and the new-school tech-brothers billionaire class, as represented by Peter Thiel and company.

How do we keep hope alive in an environment where both sides seem concerned less with the social and metaphysical implications of contact than with the profitable exploitation of alien tech? 

Also, will President Trump, the chaos agent, be an ally for disclosure? Can his political opponents stomach his involvement at all?

Daniel Elizondo is known for his expertise, his good looks, and his co-authorship with The Hermetic Penetrator of the book-length analysis “Loose Threads,” a document that dives deep into the details surrounding the battle for disclosure, the various agencies, players, and politics. It is highly recommended:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dGPQAOPGXlqEdzBUut8UGI5TbZdBy18X/view?usp=drivesdk

Nick Gold, founder of Declassify UAP and strategist for disclosure.

https://declassifyuap.org

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