Darren Walker knows philanthropy. After a lengthy tenure at the Rockefeller Foundation, he is currently the president of the Ford Foundation. Walker is actively working on fighting urban poverty on a national level, while examining the root causes of it.

He sat down with Errol Louis for a discussion about his career thus far and what he still hopes to accomplish. Along the way, they talked about how the outcomes of our criminal justice system are completely predictable, and how he still maintains a belief in the “goodness” of American people.

They also touched on his time as commander of France’s Order of Arts and Letters, and a recent piece he wrote about respecting the rules of civil discourse.

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