In this episode, we sit down with Darrin Davis, Executive Director of Fine Arts for Broken Arrow Public Schools and Former Director of Bands of Broken Bow High School — one of the most recognized band programs in the country — for a wide-ranging conversation about what leadership really looks like in today's schools. Darrin shares how his approach to leadership has evolved over time, how he navigates the pressures and expectations that come with the job, and what it means to build a collaborative culture where students and teachers can genuinely thrive.

The conversation goes beyond strategy and into something more lasting. Darrin speaks to the importance of meeting today's students where they are, empowering student leadership, and creating equitable access to fine arts experiences — regardless of a program's size or resources. It's a conversation rooted in both practical wisdom and a deep belief in what music education can do for young people.

Whether you're a band director, a fine arts administrator, or someone thinking about the long-term legacy of your program, this episode will give you plenty to reflect on and act on.

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Hosts: Dr. John Pasquale and Dr. David Clemmer

Producers: Jessica Pasquale and Theresa Clemmer