Common Time Podcast

What does it take to build an ensemble that consistently performs at an elite level—and sustain that excellence over decades?

In this episode of Common Time, we talk with Matt Harloff, former Director of Bands at Avon High School and current Brass Caption Head with Carolina Crown. Matt shares lessons from his career in marching band, concert band, and drum corps about developing culture, teaching musical artistry, building student ownership, and getting the most out of every rehearsal.

They discuss:

• Building a culture of excellence without sacrificing artistry and emotion
• Why the first weeks of a season are critical for establishing expectations and rehearsal discipline
• How to make rehearsals more efficient by talking less and doing more
• Using fundamentals and warm-ups to directly address challenges in repertoire
• What high school band directors can learn from the drum corps model
• Creating student ownership by explaining the “why” behind expectations
• Sustaining excellence through strong systems, staff culture, and a willingness to keep evolving
• The importance of finding balance, setting boundaries, and avoiding burnout as a band director
• Why band directors can learn a lot from coaches and strength & conditioning professionals
• Matt’s recommended reading, including Leading with the Heart and Extreme Ownership

Matt also reflects on one of his favorite lessons from his career: sometimes the goal isn't simply to perform perfectly—it’s to create a performance that allows musicians and audiences to stop analyzing and simply experience the music.

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Hosts: Dr. John Pasquale and Dr. David Clemmer

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In this episode of the Common Time Podcast, we sit down with legendary music educator, conductor, clinician, author, and University of Texas Professor Emeritus Paula Crider for a conversation about music education, meaningful music making, rehearsal techniques, leadership, and the human side of teaching.

Paula shares lessons from a lifetime in music education, including how to create more purposeful rehearsals, help students connect with the meaning behind the notes, develop student ownership, and balance high expectations with genuine care.

In This Episode:

• What makes a great music rehearsal
• Why “meaningful music” goes beyond playing the right notes
• Score study, preparation, and lifelong learning
• Using positive language to improve rehearsals
• Developing student leadership and ownership
• Creating a culture of high achievement and genuine care
• The importance of mentorship in music education
• What today's music students need from their teachers
• Why educators should never lose sight of the gift of music

Whether you're a band director, music educator, conductor, or student teacher, Paula's perspective offers practical reminders about teaching music with purpose, passion, and humanity.

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The Common Time Podcast is back for Season 5! Hosts John Pasquale and David Clemmer return for a conversation about summer adventures, music education, leadership, the power of the arts, and what listeners can expect from the newest season of the podcast.

After a summer break, John and David catch up on what they’ve been doing—and where their careers are taking them next.

John shares highlights from traveling to Japan and Vietnam, where he worked with bands and students and experienced musical cultures that challenged and inspired him. He also talks about returning to the University of Michigan Marching Band, the importance of musical fundamentals, and why a strong rehearsal process ultimately leads to a stronger artistic product.

David talks about his new role as Executive Director of the Amarillo Symphony and how the position brings together so many different parts of his career in music education, leadership, community engagement, and the arts. The conversation also explores the important role that music educators play in developing lifelong patrons and supporters of the arts.

Season 5 expands the Common Time conversation even further. While the podcast has deep roots in band and ensemble education, John and David are bringing in perspectives from across the musical world, including choral music, orchestral music, international music education, leadership, and the broader arts community.

Listeners can look forward to conversations with inspiring educators, conductors, composers, performers, and other guests from across the United States and around the world.

The goal remains the same: to create meaningful conversations that help music educators learn, reflect, grow, and connect with one another.

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Season four goes out with just the two of us — and it turns out there's plenty to talk about. David reflects on his artist-in-residency at the University of Texas at Arlington, where he closed out a six-conductor series, and debuted a live interactive concert app he's calling the Living Program. John shares what it was like to step onto the red dot and deliver a TED Talk about navigating a speech impediment — and what that process of synthesis actually looked like.

From there David and John dig into their ongoing wind band pedagogy collaboration with the University of Cape Coast in Ghana (now reaching educators across 13 African countries, with a master's degree program on the horizon), field listener questions about honor band availability and the Common Time Collective, swap music recommendations, and make the case — loudly — for video recording your own rehearsals. There's a conducting soapbox or two along the way, some gratitude for four seasons and 25,000-plus downloads, and a preview of what season five might become.

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After 57 years of teaching — spanning stops at Wisconsin, Northern Colorado, Michigan State, and Cincinnati before landing at the University of North Texas — Eugene Migliaro Corporon is stepping away from the podium. In that time he has shaped not just a program but an entire generation of conductors, educators, and musicians who carry his influence into rehearsal rooms and concert halls around the world.

In this episode, we sit down with Corporon for a wide-ranging conversation that is equal parts master class and memoir. He reflects on what retirement actually feels like when music has been your life since junior high school, shares hard-won wisdom on the craft of rehearsing, makes the case for repertoire as the lifeblood of any ensemble, and offers a clear-eyed challenge to the next generation of band directors: don't let the urgency of the field eclipse your artistic self.

GUEST BIO

Eugene Migliaro Corporon

Regents Professor of Music · University of North Texas

Eugene Migliaro Corporon is one of the most decorated and widely respected figures in the wind band world. A Regents Professor of Music at the University of North Texas, he has served as Coordinator of Wind Studies and Conductor of the Wind Symphony there for decades, building UNT's program into a globally recognized model for wind band excellence. Before coming to Denton, he held positions at the University of Wisconsin, the University of Northern Colorado, Michigan State University, and the University of Cincinnati. Over a career spanning 57 years of teaching, Corporon has championed new music for winds with uncommon dedication — commissioning works, collaborating closely with living composers, and insisting that the wind band's future lies in original repertoire rather than transcription. He is the author of Explorations, Discoveries, Inventions and Designs in the Nowhere, published as part of the Teaching Music Through Performance in Band series, and has conducted at major venues and conferences including Midwest, TMEA, and CBDNA. His students occupy positions in universities, conservatories, and professional ensembles throughout the world.

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS

0:00

Introduction — Corporon's career at UNT and opening reflections on retirement

1:22

Most vivid memories: students, composers, and the passing of Robert Reynolds

3:54

What he hopes former students carry forward — individuality, repertoire, and spontaneity

5:32

Building the UNT wind band program — modeling after jazz studies, outreach, and team culture

9:24

The art of rehearsal — from "stop at every mistake" to exploration, improvisation, and clarity

27:01

Non-negotiables in ensemble teaching — repertoire, advocacy, and live streaming as outreach

35:05

Defining leadership — preparation, belief, and treating composers as collaborators

40:22

Advice for the next generation — balance concert and marching, develop broadly, stay humble

48:45

One guiding principle — humanity in the rehearsal room, making students thirsty

57:26

Soapbox: value teachers as fully professional people

1:00:40

Recommended books and the Evelyn Glennie story

1:05:08

Favorite time signature — and why free time wins

1:06:50

Closing thoughts: taking credit for the work of your ensemble

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What separates a good band program from a truly great one? In this episode, veteran band director and Fine Arts administrator Amanda Drinkwater breaks down the foundations of building a thriving school band program — from cultivating student ownership and ensemble culture to running highly effective rehearsals. Amanda shares real stories from her time in the classroom , revealing how the best programs are built not on compliance, but on trust, relationships, and a genuine love of the craft.

Amanda dives into the habits and leadership philosophies that drive long-term success: why a quiet voice is more powerful than a loud one, how to create a rehearsal environment built on silence and intentionality, and why culture must grow from within the ensemble rather than be imposed from the top down. She also tackles the real challenges directors face and offers practical, honest advice for directors at every level.

Whether you're a first-year band director or a seasoned educator looking to elevate your program, this conversation is packed with actionable insights on student leadership, music advocacy, self-assessment, and what it truly means to build a program that lasts.

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Sam Quinones joins us to talk about his newest book, The Perfect Tuba — a deeply reported journey into the surprising, passionate world of American tubists. Best known for his unflinching coverage of the opioid crisis, Quinones turns here toward something altogether different: a story of joy, community, and the unlikely power of the instrument that sits at the back of the band.

We dig into the characters and communities that make the tuba world tick — from obsessive instrument makers chasing a mythical York & Sons horn, to the legendary Big Bill Bell, to Arnold Jacobs, the Chicago Symphony's tuba guru whose teachings on breathing and music verge on the philosophical. And we spend time in Roma, Texas, where a visionary marching band director built a program that wins state championships and sends kids to college.

Sam Quinones is an American journalist and author whose previous book, Dreamland, is widely regarded as one of the defining accounts of the American opioid epidemic. With The Perfect Tuba, he brings the same on-the-ground reporting instincts to a subject that is, on the surface, nothing like addiction — and finds that the two stories share more than you'd expect.

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Conductor Laura Jackson joins us to talk about score study, rehearsal techniques, and how her approach shifts depending on the ensemble in front of her.About Laura Jackson: Laura Jackson is Music Director and Conductor of the Reno Philharmonic Orchestra, a position she has held since 2009 with her contract extended through the 2028–29 season. Praised for her dynamic leadership and progressive vision, she is recognized for championing new music, mentoring the next generation of musicians, composers, and women conductors, and her work as an official mentor in the Taki Alsop Foundation's Fellowship program. She has guest conducted orchestras across the United States, Canada, France, Poland, Czech Republic, Algeria, and China.

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LeAndre Benton is a concert band composer, band director, school administrator, and NCAA Women's Basketball official — and in this episode, he breaks down how all three worlds of music education have shaped him. We talk about the unique perspective that comes from living on every side of the music ed experience, his journey as a composer. Whether you're a musician, educator, or just someone who loves a great story, this one's for you.

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In this episode, we sit down with Darrin Davis, Executive Director of Fine Arts for Broken Arrow Public Schools and Former Director of Bands of Broken Bow High School — one of the most recognized band programs in the country — for a wide-ranging conversation about what leadership really looks like in today's schools. Darrin shares how his approach to leadership has evolved over time, how he navigates the pressures and expectations that come with the job, and what it means to build a collaborative culture where students and teachers can genuinely thrive.

The conversation goes beyond strategy and into something more lasting. Darrin speaks to the importance of meeting today's students where they are, empowering student leadership, and creating equitable access to fine arts experiences — regardless of a program's size or resources. It's a conversation rooted in both practical wisdom and a deep belief in what music education can do for young people.

Whether you're a band director, a fine arts administrator, or someone thinking about the long-term legacy of your program, this episode will give you plenty to reflect on and act on.

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