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Episode #19. Michael Ryan interviews Dave Hodrien of the Birmingham UFO Group.  Dave talks about the group and his extensive research into U.S. Navy sailor, Bill Turtle, who has had encounters with UFOs and beings most of his life.  Including the sighting of a UFO while aboard the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga.  You can visit the Birmingham UFO Group website here. To visit the Birmingham Facebook page go here.   Also a discussion of prize fighter Muhammad Ali's interest in and sightings of UFOs.  You can hear Muhammad Ali talk about his UFO sightings on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson here.

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