Today’s guest is David Roche—elite ultrarunner, 2024 Leadville 100 champion and course record holder, coach to some of the sport’s top athletes, co-author of The Happy Runner, and co-founder of Some Work All Play with his brilliant wife Megan. But beyond the accolades, David is someone who radiates joy, purpose, and perspective—especially in a sport that can sometimes take itself way too seriously.

We talk about why running doesn’t have to “matter” to matter, how to set big scary goals without tying your worth to them, and why silliness and love might just be your best training plan. Whether you're toeing the line at your first 5K or dreaming of a hundred-miler, I promise—this episode will leave your heart a little fuller and your inner critic a little quieter.