Deal Flow Friday

Deal Flow Friday

By David MoghavemBusinessInvesting
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Deal Flow Friday episodes

  • Garage Condos & Self Storage: Gerrit Van Maanen - Playground Properties

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David sits down with Gerrit Van Maanen, Principal at Playground Properties and Co-Host of the Best Ever Conference. Gerrit shares his journey from Spartan Investment Group’s self-storage growth story to pioneering the niche asset class of garage condos. They dive into how garage condos differ from traditional self-storage, who the typical buyers are, investor return profiles, pipeline opportunities in Colorado, and the importance of capital raising and reputation. Gerrit also highlights the evolution of the Best Ever Conference and its role in building a strong real estate community.

    Chapters

    01:49 – Intro 
    04:17 – Background and transition from Self Storage into Garage Condos
    06:05 – COVID impact on Self Storage and institutional growth
    10:44 – Lessons learned from Self Storage and challenges with operations
    13:35 – Why Garage Condos: shifting from storage to for-sale product
    14:25 – Key differences between Storage and Garage Condos
    16:49 – Typical buyer profile and market selection
    18:38 – Why buyers choose to own instead of rent
    20:47 – Investor returns, IRR focus, and deal metrics
    30:40 – Pipeline update: Golden and Grand Junction, CO
    32:19 – Colorado focus and market education for Garage Condos
    33:50 – Biggest misconceptions and importance of marketing
    35:02 – Best Ever Conference mission and growth
    37:20 – Origins from the Best Ever Podcast
    38:30 – Where to connect with Gerrit
    39:13 – Closing & Sign-off 

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    40 min
  • Agentic AI: Jacob Kosior - Elise AI

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, host David Moghavem interviews Jacob Kosior, VP of Client Strategy at Elise AI, one of the fastest growing Prop Tech companies who've just completed a $250M Series E funding round, with over $100M in Annual Reccuring Revenue. In this episode, the two discuss the transformative impact of AI on multifamily operations. They explore how conversational and agentic AI are redefining leasing processes, enhancing resident interactions, and addressing operational challenges. Jacob shares insights on the importance of implementation, measuring ROI, and the future of AI in real estate, emphasizing the need for operators to embrace technology to stay competitive.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Elise AI and Its Impact
    04:00 AI Redefining Multifamily Operations
    05:50 Conversational AI: Enhancing Resident Interaction
    09:15 Addressing Implementation Challenges
    11:34 The Role of AI in Operational Efficiency
    13:39 Generative AI vs. Agentic AI
    17:13 Expanding AI Capabilities for Operators
    19:08 Measuring ROI with AI Implementation
    21:30 Tech Stack Consolidation and Centralization
    24:26 Integrating with Existing Platforms
    27:04 Advice for Multifamily Operators on AI Adoption
    29:27 Future of AI in Real Estate Operations
    32:36 Funding and Growth Plans for Elise AI

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    35 min
  • Florida Development: Martin Aranzabe - Key International

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, host David Moghavem interviews Martin Aranzabe from Key International, discussing the current state of real estate development in Florida, from high-rise luxury multifamily and condo developments in Miami, to garden-style product in Tampa, and everything in between, including hotels on the beach. They explore Key International's focus on residential and hospitality projects, the challenges of hotel development, and the dynamics of the multifamily market. Martin shares insights on capital strategies, market trends, and the importance of networking, particularly through his connection to Babson College. The conversation highlights the complexities of navigating supply and demand in Miami's real estate landscape, as well as the opportunities in suburban development.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Key International and Martin Aranzabe
    03:05 Overview of Key International's Projects and Focus Areas
    05:27 Hospitality Development and Market Trends
    08:03 Multi-Family Development Strategies and Challenges
    11:26 Capital Structure and Development Financing
    15:00 Innovative Deal Structures and Joint Ventures
    16:18 Market Analysis: Supply and Demand Dynamics
    20:05 Shadow Inventory and Rental Market Insights
    23:16 Urban Development and Infrastructure Challenges
    29:56 Networking and the Babson Connection


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    34 min
  • Rent Analytics: Alec Slocum - Apartment IQ Founder & CEO

    On this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David Moghavem sits down with Alec Slocum, Founder & CEO of ApartmentIQ, to explore how technology and AI are reshaping multifamily rent analytics. Alec shares how his team went from building a student housing ILS to launching ApartmentIQ, a platform now used by two-thirds of the NMHC Top 50 that delivers daily, unit-level rent data with unprecedented accuracy. The discussion covers the evolution of rent comps from art to science, how operators and asset managers can leverage automated market surveys to spot market shifts, and why data accuracy is such a competitive advantage. Alec also highlights how ApartmentIQ and Maven AI are applying artificial intelligence to concessions, renovations, and marketing automation, while sharing insights on where the multifamily industry is headed and why he’s bullish on markets like San Francisco amid the AI boom. This episode offers a front-row seat into the future of rent analytics and PropTech innovation for investors, operators, and asset managers alike. 

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Apartment IQ and Its Impact
    02:47 The Origin Story of Apartment IQ
    04:53 Market Surveys Reinvented
    06:47 The "Art" vs "Science" in Pulling Rent Comparables
    09:55 The Importance of Accurate Data in Real Estate
    13:23 "Is it Me? Or is it the Market?" Spot Checking Your Portfolio Rents
    16:38 Leveraging AI in Multifamily Data
    19:35 Will AI Replace My Job?
    22:56 Maven AI: Revolutionizing Marketing in Multifamily
    28:35 Multifamily Market Trends From the Data
    33:49 So Which Market is Alec Most Bullish On?

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    37 min
  • LA RETAIL: Brandon Cohan - BCRE

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David Moghavem sits down with Brandon Cohan, Founder and CEO of BCRE, one of the leading names in LA’s high-street retail scene. The conversation dives into the dynamics of retail real estate in Los Angeles, from Brentwood’s renaissance and the “Kreation Effect”, to the challenges restaurants face with labor costs, rents, and shifting consumer behaviors. Brandon shares insights on post-COVID retail resilience, the regional reinvention of LA neighborhoods, and how adaptive reuse and experiential retail are shaping the future. He also emphasizes the importance of community engagement, humility, and relationships as the cornerstone for long-term success in real estate. This episode offers a rare, candid look at what’s really happening on the ground in LA retail, blending market intelligence with personal lessons from Brandon’s journey building BCRE after his time as Vice President of CBRE.

    00:00 – Introduction of Brandon Cohan & BCRE’s Rise
    04:00 – Retail Market Challenges: Vacancy, Absorption & Labor Costs
    07:45 – COVID’s Impact and Neighborhood Reinvention
    08:50 – Brentwood’s Renaissance
    10:38 – The “Kreation Effect”
    14:38 – The Fate of Big Box Retail & Adaptive Reuse Opportunities
    18:50 – Outdoor Shopping Centers & East Coast Trends
    21:00 – Miami Design District "Destination Retail"
    22:10 – Experiential Retail vs. Downturn Resilience
    25:00 – Generational Shifts in Consumer & Business Trends
    27:00 – Restaurant Struggles: Labor, Rents & Decision Making
    30:30 – Exodus from LA, Entertainment Industry Decline, & Competitive Leasing
    33:10 – Canon Drive, Beverly Hills, and High-End Leasing Competition
    34:40 – Third Street: From Heyday to Recovery
    37:10 – Robertson Boulevard: Evolving, Not Declining
    41:00 – Emerging Markets: Highland Park, Echo Park, Marina del Rey, Pasadena
    43:10 – Brandon’s Journey: Leaving CBRE to Found BCRE
    47:10 – Relationships, Networks & Business Philosophy
    49:40 – Advice for Restaurants: Humility & Community Engagement
    51:30 – Closing Thoughts: Community, Resilience & LA’s Future

    53 min
  • Asymmetric Returns: Paul Daneshrad - CEO of Starpoint Properties

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, host David Moghavem sits down with Paul Daneshrad, Founder & CEO of Starpoint Properties, to explore how patience, discipline, and opportunistic strategies drive outsized returns in real estate. Paul shares insights on asymmetric returns, diversification across asset classes, and the evolving capital markets landscape. The conversation covers Starpoint’s approach to value-add investments, Opportunity Zone projects, and navigating the current challenges in multifamily acquisitions. Paul also discusses his book Money and Morons, which addresses the national debt crisis and its implications for future generations.

    About Starpoint Properties: Founded in 1995, Starpoint is a privately held real estate investment and operating company specializing in the acquisition, development, and management of premier multifamily, retail, office, and mixed-use properties across the U.S. With a disciplined and value-oriented approach, Starpoint has completed more than $2 billion in transactions, focusing on creating long-term value for investors and communities, delivering weighted average IRRs in excess of ~26%. 

    Chapters

    00:00 – Asymmetric Returns & Value-Add Strategy
     01:40 – Introduction & Early Connections
     03:00 – Miami vs. LA & Market Energy
     05:00 – Buffett’s Wisdom & Patience in Investing
     06:10 – Opportunity Zones & Long-Term Value
     09:40 – Diversification & Risk Mitigation
     13:25 – Specialization vs. Opportunism
     16:30 – Beverly Hills Case Study
     19:15 – Capital Flows & Institutional Competition
     21:00 – The Challenge of Capital Raising Today
     24:30 – Multifamily Returns & Positive Leverage
     27:00 – Bridge Debt & Capital Stack Distress
     29:00 – Active Starpoint Strategies
     34:50 – Paul’s Book: Money and Morons
    44:00 – Preparing for a Debt Crisis
    48:00 – Closing Thoughts & Future Outlook


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    49 min
  • Multifamily Operations: Trion Properties

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David Moghavem sits down with his fellow Trion Properties’ collegues and operation leaders:

    Johnny De La Espriella Head of Property Management
    Natalina Rettew Head of Asset Management
    Max Sharkansky Managing Partner 

    The four Trion leaders dive deep into what it takes to run a high-performing multifamily portfolio in today’s market. They cover the operational fundamentals that drive NOI, from process discipline and people management to the latest proptech tools transforming property management. The team shares day-one impact strategies, insights on navigating complex regulations across multiple states, and the surprising trends emerging from Trion’s coast-to-coast portfolio.

    The conversation also unveils Trion’s move into third-party property management, the philosophy behind their owner-operator approach, and how leveraging tech, talent, and market expertise can unlock alpha in even the toughest markets.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Intro & Guest Introductions
    04:05 – Day-One Operational Impact & NOI Growth
    06:14 – Process Discipline and Regulatory Nuances
    07:50 – People as the Core of Multifamily Success
    09:55 – Proptech Tools Transforming Operations
    14:06 – Empowering Staff with AI and Tech Platforms
    15:56 – Asset Management Tools & Power BI Rollout
    17:56 – Transparency & Communication with Capital Partners
    22:29 – Surprising Portfolio Trends Across Markets
    25:56 – Adapting to State Regulations & Process Changes
    29:14 – Market Stabilization and Advocacy Efforts
    31:08 – Lessons from California, Oregon, and Colorado Operations
    31:44 – Aligning Operational Philosophies
    35:00 – Looking Ahead: Opportunities Beyond AI
    35:42 – Trion’s Move into Third-Party Management
    41:04 – Leveraging Vintage Asset Expertise
    41:34 – The Power of Strong Regional Teams
    42:56 – Rapid-Fire Ops Insights
    45:03 – Closing Thoughts & Team Appreciation

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    45 min
  • Multifamily Capital Strategy: Brian Asheghian - Convoy Capital

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David Moghavem sits down with longtime friend and industry colleague Brian Asheghian, Vice President at Convoy Capital, to dive deep into today’s multifamily financing landscape. They cover the shifting dynamics in ground-up construction loans, the surge of LA’s ED1 affordable housing projects, and creative strategies for takeout financing in a high-rate environment.

    Brian shares insights on navigating lender requirements, the growing role of private credit, and the challenges of financing modular construction. They also discuss the macro outlook for interest rates, why experience and liquidity matter more than ever, and the grit it takes to succeed in brokerage — including Brian’s story of working 50 straight weekends to build his career.

    Whether you’re a developer, investor, or broker, this conversation is packed with practical takeaways on securing capital, structuring deals, and thriving in today’s market.


    Chapters:


    00:00 Intro

    01:32 Mamba Edition & Old Memories

    03:45 State of Ground-Up Construction Financing

    05:10 ED1 Affordable Housing Boom in LA

    09:15 Financing Nuances for ED1 Projects

    11:55 Creative Takeout Loan Strategies

    14:35 Macro Outlook & Anticipated Rate Cuts

    16:45 Banks vs. Private Credit

    19:05 Modular Construction & Non-Recourse Challenges

    21:00 What Lenders Want from Borrowers

    23:25 Work Ethic & Career Grit

    29:05 Broker Life Reality Check

    31:25 Leveraging Technology & AI

    35 min
  • Portland: Ben Murphy - Commercial Integrity NW

    In this episode, David Moghavem interviews Ben Murphy, the investment sales director at Commercial Integrity, about the investment landscape in Portland, Oregon. They discuss the unique opportunities in the Portland market, including the impact of inclusionary zoning, the recovery of the urban core, and the growth of suburban areas. Ben shares insights on why investing in blue states can be beneficial, the challenges posed by regulatory environments, and the potential for value-add opportunities in older properties. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding local market dynamics and offers advice for new investors looking to enter the Portland market.

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro: Meet Ben Murphy
    03:32 Why Portland? The Contrarian Case for Blue States
    06:34 Portland = The Midwest of the West?
    08:44 Unique Ownership Structure in Portland
    10:05 The Affordability Advantage
    12:26 Why No One Is Building in Portland
    16:19 Urban Core Recovery & Deep Discounts
    19:21 Policy Reversal & Urban Revitalization
    22:56 Suburban Boom: Where to Look
    26:29 Advice for New Investors in Portland
    29:14 Don't Sleep on 60s & 70s Product
    31:29 Final Thoughts & How to Reach Ben

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    34 min
  • Client-First Capital Advisory: Andrew Kwok - Arcus Harbor

    In this episode of Deal Flow Friday, David Moghavem sits down with Andrew Kwok, Principal at Arcus Harbor Real Estate Capital, to dive deep into the rapidly evolving debt and equity landscape in commercial real estate. They explore why private credit is on fire, the regulatory pressures driving borrowers away from traditional banks, and how debt funds are competing for deals. Andrew shares valuable insights from his 20+ years in the industry, including lessons learned from launching Arcus Harbor and navigating capital markets post-COVID.

    From structured finance to agency lending, Andrew and David break down how sponsors can smartly recapitalize, refinance, or acquire assets in today’s climate—where positive leverage is back and the devil is in the details. If you're trying to make sound capital decisions in 2025, this episode is packed with strategy, nuance, and perspective.

     Chapters 

    • 00:00 – Introduction & Arcus Swag Talk
    • 01:38 – The Arcus Team’s Deep History
    • 03:03 – USC Real Estate Board & Market Thought Leadership
    • 04:48 – Why Private Credit is Booming
    • 07:18 – Operators Entering the Credit Game
    • 09:18 – Shifting from Credit to Equity?
    • 10:38 – Appetite Swings in Debt Fund Lending
    • 12:08 – CLOs, Back Leverage & Loan Sales Explained
    • 13:48 – How Bank Regulation Benefits Private Credit
    • 17:08 – Why Arcus Rebranded & How It’s Structured
    • 20:18 – Arcus Lending Products and Market Coverage
    • 23:18 – A More Nimble, Client-First Approach
    • 27:18 – Deal Volume: Agency vs. Alternatives
    • 29:48 – Refinances, Maturities & Acquisition Trends
    • 34:18 – Seller Capitulation & Buying Below Replacement Cost
    • 36:48 – Positive Leverage is Back
    • 38:28 – Syndicators: Old School vs. New Age
    • 40:38 – Strategic Recapitalizations with Cash-In Refinances
    • 43:18 – Insurance Market Dislocation & Recovery
    • 45:18 – Advice for Sponsors Making Tough Decisions
    • 47:48 – Why Term Sheets Aren’t Always What They Seem
    • 49:18 – Deep Diligence and Underwriting is Back
    • 51:48 – Term Sheet Minutiae: Strike Prices, Floors, and Caps
    • 53:38 – Creative Cap Structures and Market Nuances
    • 55:08 – Wrapping Up With Golf & Gratitude


    56 min

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Every Friday, join us as we dive into the latest in real estate multifamily with David Moghavem, Head of East Coast Acquisitions at Trion Properties. David invites top experts who know the ins, outs, and trends shaping the real estate multifamily market across the nation!