In the second episode of series four, Clemmie chats to former fashion academic, turned writer and TED x speaker Stacey Heale whose husband, Delays drummer Greg Gilbert, died from bowel cancer in 2021. Since Greg's death Stacey has spoken out about her grief, the experience of watching a loved one go through cancer, and how to really live.

In this emotional chat, Clemmie asks Stacey why she's so passionate about talking openly about her experience, finds out what Stacey wishes she'd known about death, and discovers how she's coped with her two kids since Greg's death.

The pair also discuss funeral fashion and why Stacey needed a pair of XL sunglasses and some lace gloves for Greg's funeral.

You can find Stacey on Instagram @stacey_heale.

Find Clemmie on Instagram @Clemmie_Telford.

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