Episode 8 show notes:

* Cue: crows!

* A different approach to this episode: letting go of our typical plotting and notes.

* This episode's original theme: "Death & Dying".

* Victoria and the BRCA2 gene.

* Volunteering for Hospice.

* The Turning Point: Victoria names her in-the-moment challenge of sitting across from Bryce, the self-consciousness that arises, the wanting to turn the pain outward and blame the other.

* Reiteration of what this podcast is about: being real.

* Victoria as a sexual 4, grounding and anchoring down in self, taming the raging-fire-force.

* Bryce considers turning attention back toward the original episode theme... or continuing on the path that is now unfolding.

* Robert Thurman's translation of the "Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" (correction: it's actually the classic "Tibetan Book of the Dead"); and Bryce's sense of parallelism between the principles of Living and Dying, and Victoria's moment-to-moment choosing.

* What is it like to consider the BRCA2 gene manifesting in Victoria's body?

* How do I want to relate to my own death?

* Victoria experiences a trip, a fall, an intensity, an urge to cry.

* Victoria as an ENTJ, with Introverted Feeling in the inferior position.

* Momentary shout-out to the "Personality Hacker" Podcast!

* Victoria's wish that her mom was more willing to engage in conversation as she was nearing her death with Stage 4 ovarian cancer.

* A practice of preparation for the meeting of the moment of death, and how Victoria wants to show up; and also, how to open more and more to Life and its abundance.

* Victoria turns attention toward Bryce, who has had his eyes closed in the hopes that Victoria will feel more space and less pressure.

* Bryce reveals that he's feeling in a delicate place.

* Victoria leans in to being "really real" in service of healing and growth, and shares that Bryce's bringing up of the book earlier in the recording was a trigger for her.

* A moment of Silence...

* Bryce shares that he is "doing" his "stupid fucking personality", choosing to hold more and more in.

* Victoria challenges Bryce on his assertion that "at every turn" there is the potential for his behavior triggering Victoria.

* Bryce states that he's in a big "I don't know how to do this podcast" state.

* Victoria grounds in a place of "finding our way" and "staying in it" while in the burn - in service of taming her controlling-of-other, in service to her relationship with Bryce, and in service of the evolution of this Podcast.

* Bryce sees and feels the good that is happening in Victoria, throughout this episode.

* Victoria and the work of the sexual 4: slowing down, becoming unenergetic, sharing pain, taking an inferior position.

* The personality "dying" to allow something new, cleaner, truer to come through.

* Bryce's intimacy with the self (as a self-preservation 4), and Victoria's past envy and admiration of this.

* Bryce holding more in as this episode has unfolded, which is his subtype-usual-same-old.

* Survival fear animates in Bryce, but there's a choice to let go of attachment to feeling safe and feeling understood.

* Meeting as equals in practice, with ground and alignment.

* Holding of clients in deep inner work.

* A chirpy-bird closing, just before Bryce's computer dies - did his audio recording save? Yes!

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