The Art of Growth

By Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman

The Art of Growth started by Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman works with teams to develop Team Health and individuals for self-mastery and social awareness. We are an IEA (International Enneagram Assoc

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The podcast currently has 310 episodes available.

The Art of Growth episodes:

August 18, 2026 Enneagram at Work with Halie from Wellspring Counseling
In this episode of Enneagram at Work, Joel and Jim talk with Halie Howells, owner of Wellspring Center for Counseling, about how the Enneagram has shaped her growth as both a therapist and a business leader. Halie leads a growing counseling practice with more than 30 therapists across multiple locations.
As an Enneagram 2, Halie shares the challenge of moving from being everyone's helper and cheerleader to actually taking up the role of boss—setting clear expectations, having difficult conversations, and learning that caring for people doesn't mean doing everything for them.
The conversation explores how self-awareness has helped Halie personalize the way she leads different people, build a healthier team culture, receive difficult feedback, and recognize when her own patterns could become a bottleneck for the business. She also talks about why growth has to begin with the leader: as we become more aware of ourselves, we create more room for the people around us to bring their own strengths to the table.
Learn more about Halie and Wellspring Center for Counseling:
https://www.wellspringcenterforcounseling.com/

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37min
August 12, 2026 Enneagram at Work- with Shawn Cook of Advocate Wealth Management
In the first episode of our Enneagram at Work series, we talk with Shawn Cook of Advocate Wealth Management about how he uses the Enneagram with clients—including how understanding a client’s instinctual stack can help inform an investment strategy that fits the way they naturally approach security, resources, risk, and relationships.
About Shawn Cook
Shawn is the Owner and Wealth Advisor at Advocate Wealth Management, where he helps clients build comprehensive financial plans and investment portfolios.
Learn more or connect with Shawn:
https://www.advocatewm.com
[email protected]

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41min
August 04, 2026 The Truth Has No Gurus
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54min
July 07, 2026 The Instincts- How we got here and where we're going.
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59min
June 30, 2026 Tricia, Pam, Katie- Coach Pod
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Book with Tricia Hall
Book with Pam Sutherland
Book with Katie Donovan

Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
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45min
June 23, 2026 Lila, Tamra, Barbara- Coach Pod
Find out more about The Art of Growth
Book with any of our coaches HERE.
Book with Lila Asante-Appiah
Book with Tamra Evangelista
Book with Barbara Zerbe

Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
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47min
June 16, 2026 Laura, Chrissy, Hillary- Coach Pod
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Book with any of our coaches HERE.
Book with Laura Miller
Book with Hillary Schuessler
Book with Chrissy Irvin

Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
www.theartofgrowth.org
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48min
June 09, 2026 How Personality Forms
What if everything you believe about why you are the way you are is only half the story? In this episode, Joel and Jim take on the most common explanation people give for their own personality: I am this way because of what happened to me. It is not wrong, they argue. It is incomplete. Personality forms from a mix of what you were born with, the environment you interacted with, and what you keep building in response.
From there the conversation opens up into why so much growth work quietly fails, the difference between healing and unwounding, and why your wounds may be the very crack the light shines through. Along the way they get into spiritual bypassing, the journey as a pilgrimage rather than a destination, and what it actually takes to find your North Star. It is an honest, hopeful look at the idea that the worst of you is temporary, the best of you is permanent, and that disruption is less a verdict than an invitation.

Find out more about The Art of Growth
Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
www.theartofgrowth.org
Email us your thoughts and questions!

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© The Art of Growth ™ 2025
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57min
June 02, 2026 Function, Overuse, and Integration of the Three Centers
Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman explore the Enneagram’s three centers of intelligence: Head, Heart, and Body. They discuss the function of each center, what happens when it is overused, what it costs us when it is missing, and what becomes possible through integration. Head thinks. Heart connects. Body acts.

Find out more about The Art of Growth
Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
www.theartofgrowth.org
Email us your thoughts and questions!

Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing.
© The Art of Growth ™ 2025
Support the show
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1h 6min
May 26, 2026 Rethinking the Enneagram from the Ground Up
In this episode, Jim and Joel return after a break to explain the deeper work happening behind the scenes at The Art of Growth. They revisit the foundations of the Enneagram, clarifying what they mean by “type” through three key components: core motivation, schema, and expression.
They also introduce a major shift in their current work: moving beyond the idea of nine types with separate instinctual subtypes and toward a more integrated model of 54 types, where each Enneagram type is inseparable from its instinctual stack. Along the way, they discuss why some older Enneagram descriptions no longer hold up, how thousands of typing interviews have shaped their thinking, and why the model itself should keep growing through observation, self-reporting, and real human experience.
Find out more about The Art of Growth
Take a free Enneagram Test HERE.
Sign up for the “Your Enneagram Starting Point” course HERE.

Get Enneagram Certified HERE.
Find out more about Teams Training HERE.
Order our book on the Instincts: HERE
Set up One-on-One coaching HERE.
www.theartofgrowth.org
Email us your thoughts and questions!

Follow us on Instagram at ArtofGrowth for more on this subject this month and let us know what you are doing.
© The Art of Growth ™ 2025
Support the show
https://www.theartofgrowth.org/
...more
51min

FAQs about The Art of Growth:

How many episodes does The Art of Growth have?

The podcast currently has 310 episodes available.

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