We are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation!

That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This is Rachel's first time on the show, and Courtney is an Enneagram Journey veteran, and it probably isn't their last time sharing with our listeners.

We have a few clips of songs sprinkled throughout the show, and hope you enjoy all of them (or at least a couple!).

And don't forget to jump on over to lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see where Suzanne is teaching next and other opportunities with LTM and The Enneagram Journey!

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Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram!

The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We get to hear what works and what struggles 9s and 2s have together.

PLUG TIME:

LTM has a new home, and we're working on updating a new and improved website. We have events coming up in Minnesota, California, Texas, and Massachusetts. The 2027 Cohort applications open May 1, and summer small groups are around the corner.

visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to join in the community!

Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren!

William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother.

You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our different ways of connection including: how do you respond to people singing happy birthday to you?!

And remember, hope will not leave you disappointed!

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Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain.

Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years.

As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any "enneagram" talk. Suzanne and Joe always are quick to say that the enneagram is just a tool. A GREAT tool, but just one. The Micah Center was so much more than a tool. It became a safe space for thousands of people to go to.

Stay hard Micah Center!

If The Micah Center means something to you, or had an impact on your life, we would love to hear about it. CLICK HERE to leave a voicemail sharing some Micah Center love or memories.

Ready to join the Enneagram AND tour 2026?! The first event is at the end of January, and we're continuing on into the summer.

The Enneagram AND Parenting

The Enneagram AND Spirituality

The Enneagram AND Truama

The Enneagram AND Your Body

The Enneagram AND Stress

Join live or join us virtually online for great teaching with a great group of teachers.

CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE ENNEAGRAM AND TOUR 2026 OR LEARN MORE

The Merton Prayer:

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The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory?

You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlotte.com and kimhoneycutt.com 

PLUG TIME!!!!

The Enneagram AND 2026 Tour is around the corner!

The Enneagram and Parenting in Nashville, TN - The Enneagram and Spirituality in Jackson, MS - The Enneagram and Trauma in Colorado Springs, CO - The Enneagram and Your Body in Minneapolis, MN - The Enneagram and Stress in California.

Join us in person, or join us online virtually!

Get all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand

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Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee!

4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes!

Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8.

"I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE

All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com

LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey!

Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work.

Her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, comes out in March, but it isn't too early to pre-order. You can pre-order your copy here. It also isn't too late to join us on Saturday, September 27th online or in Dallas to hear Joey teach! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to learn more and sign up. And visit wesolutions.life to learn more about Joey and her corporate enneagram teaching.

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Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!

Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.

To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast!

It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone!

PLUG TIME

When Working Together Doesn't Work with Joey Schewee

Saturday, September 27 / 9:00 am - 4:00 pm

The Micah Center in Dallas or join Online

Join consultant and Enneagram Theorist, Joey Schewee of @enneagramparents, and co-facilitator of The Enneagram For The Modern World Cohort, ahead of the release of her book, When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers, for a day of Enneagram exploration. Joey will guide participants through her impactful take on triads, stances, and the core of her unique body of work: processing centers. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or well-versed in this wisdom, this workshop is thoughtfully designed to give all participants takeaways that are immediately and exponentially applicable.

CLICK HERE TO REGISTER IN PERSON OR ONLINE

Pre-order your copy of When Working Together Doesn't Work here on Amazon

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Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!

Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.

Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com !

Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to.

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Q&A Episode in the house!

We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).

"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"

Then we get to talk about:

Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact

PLUG TIME

Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !

Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!

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