When Dr. Abdul El-Sayed realized that he could travel 15 hours to visit family in Egypt or drive 15 minutes away in Detroit and traverse the same 10-year life expectancy gap, the deeply political aspects of medicine and public health really hit home for him. In a broadly-spanning career with roles in medicine, activism, education, and politics, Dr. El-Sayed has endeavored to fix the problems in the U.S. healthcare system that contribute to this gap. In this important interview, Dr. El-Sayed speaks with host Dr. Rishi Desai about the power of storytelling, the immoral foundation of our healthcare system, and the need to step beyond institutional measurements to decide what matters. Tune in to discover the powerful influence his grandmother has had on his life's work, why Dr. El-Sayed believes that Medicare for all is not only the ethical way to go, but also “extremely technically possible,” and what he sees as the next step toward removing corporate dominance from our healthcare system. If you like this podcast, please share it on your social channels. You

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