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We’ve arrived at the final chapter of Book 1 of Dune. Paul and Jessica are alone in the desert with their stilltent as Duncan Idaho, the surprise rescuer in the ornithopter, goes looking for any survivors he can help.
Paul has a coming of age moment where he puts together the dual mentat and Bene Gesserit training he’s been under his whole life. That he’s a part of an agenda but can choose his own path. Also, that he is addicted to spice and essentially stranded on Arrakis.
Mike critiques that the writing doesn’t explicitly talk about this moment occurring due to heightened emotions or trauma from the previous day’s events.
Jeff comments that race consciousness isn’t a good term for what ought to be “collective unconscious”
Links:
It’s a picasso- SNL
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/portrait-of-the-artist-pablo-picasso/2868073
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In this episode the boys squeeze in two very short chapters: the flashback of Yueh putting the pack in the thopter for Paul and Jessica, his death, and then Leto's death via poison tooth along with Harkonnen attack on Arrakeen.
Mike talks a little Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict and how to tell the accent of an Azeri formerly on the Armenian side of the border. Jeff tells a story about his dad in Vietnam.
The hosts question whether there are hand lasguns or are all lasguns heavy artillery?
Shoutut to Binge Mode for the episode name
Shownotes:
People of the book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Book
Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict
Paul and Jessica take a ride in an ornithopter with some Harkonnen goons. Paul uses the voice for the first time and kicks a man to death.
Though we’re definitely a book-first podcast we discuss how the Yueh plot is gonna be wack in a 2021 film. Are they really going to run with it or change the story a touch?
Jeff revisits the idea that tough times don’t really make tough people on a mass scale.
Ep links:
Brightness falls: https://www.amazon.com/Brightness-Falls-Jay-McInerney/dp/0679745327
Abdomen kick KO: https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/6/26/22551937/ufc-vegas-30-video-marcin-prachnio-shuts-down-ike-villanueva-with-body-kick
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With the chapter covered here being very short (where Yueh replaces Leto’s tooth with the poison implant) the hosts talk about non-Dune stuff for the first 20 minutes including topics like:
As always, we’re interested in what the audience thinks about this- let us know!
In terms of this chapter of Dune: we’ve talked a lot about Yueh sucks as does this plotline. Linking the chapter intro to the text itself- the Atreides “plans within plans” nonsense with Leto publicly suspecting Jessica was all a total waste. The game is basically over for Leto and athe Atreides on Arrakis and it was the weakest member of the team that did them in.
Show links:
Lake Hackert, MI- https://www.lake-link.com/michigan-lakes/mason-county/crystal-hackert-lake/22787/
Greek Civil War- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War
Edgar Rolls- https://www.instagram.com/p/CPCkmIBJJY9/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR0lX_3Ri3qet9Hut4z8miRrWHJmzlqNZazZLkhL5QXXU5SdsSbu2yKjvXE
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Episodes 14,15, and 16 were all recorded on the same day. Do we seem diminished by the end? Let us know. In fact, Mike renews his call to listeners to DM the IG or Facebook group about literally anything.
Duncan shows up drunk and the boys discuss the actor playing Duncan in the 2021 movie, Jason Mamoa in general.
Jessica and Thufir finally have it out about who is the traitor as well as the *real* pecking order of the Atreides organization.
The oft-discussed Bene Gesserit power of “the voice” finally gets put on display to amazing effect.
Jeff’s leadership round-up of the episode: Jessica flexed real organizational power and restored alignment. Ultimately, a good move.
Has fame been bad for Navy Seals?
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Coming in hot off the Scott Ross conversation, we dive into the Chapter of Dune where Jessica hosts a dinner party with the power brokers of Arrakis in Arakeen, we learn some disgusting Harkonnen traditions, Leto acts awkwardly like a man whose time is marked; Ned Stark-like in his poorly playing the game.
Mike makes a general plea to our audience all over the world to please DM the Instagram handle or join our facebook community and message him pretty much anything.
Jeff further develops the Spice is Worm poop theory from the past episode. Mike claims squirting aka female climax is pee. It is what it is.
Show links:
Claiming squirting isnt pee (wrong): https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/the-hook-up/squirting-sex-pee-pleasure-guide/12519364
Chapo cheesecake factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2g2svYx1v4
Oliver Twist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Twist
We’re back after too long of a break interviewing Masters of Literature candidate and 10th Planet Ventura owner Scott Ross.
We cover the Monomyth/ the Hero's Journey as espoused in Joseph Campbell's "Hero With a Thousand Faces" which was itself heavily influenced by Jungian psychology.
We also talk a lot about the Bene Gesserit Missionaria Protectiva by way of a discussion regarding previous attempts at changing history or using myth to control populations. Some excellent examples include: Genesis B and The Legend of King Arthur- you’re going to want to look into those after hearing this if you aren’t very familiar.
We also discuss some of the meaning behind specific names in the book series like the House of Atreus (Atreides) from Greek myth, the name Keynes, Helen Gaius Mohiam, etc.
Finally, Jeff makes the controversial claim: spice Worm poop (or at least bodily waste).
Fret not for another delay- eps -15 and 016 are already recorded and in those eps we return to book chapters!
Show notes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_B
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics
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The boys agree that they're going to limit the jiu jitsu, BUT when people knife fight in the book we're going to talk about grappling and military strategy.
Jeff introduces the main influence on the Fremen: sabres of paradise.
Strong convo about the aspects of pooping in stillsuits.
And then the chapter: Paul and Leto go on a field trip with Liet Kynes to see spice harvesting in action, worm comes, all goes wrong and Leto makes a strong leadership call.
Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabres-Paradise-Conquest-Vengeance-Caucasus/dp/0993092721
https://prezi.com/ua6o1hz0hudd/stain-your-prayer-rug-with-wine/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/24/world/middleeast/sufi-muslim-explainer.html
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This has been foreshadowed before but we learn not only has the Missionaria Protectiva foreshadowed someone *like* Jessica showing up on Arrakis, but also the son of a Bene Gesserit- in this case, Paul. He is the Mahdi.
Then the hosts sidetrack hard on polish black metal: "Tale of two batushkas: batushka and faketushka" and civil forfeiture...but it's pretty awesome
This is a good episode to repeat the request for feedback: too much sidetracking? If we did 2 chapters in an hour-better than this?
https://www.metalsucks.net/2019/07/26/the-faketushka-version-of-batushka-is-getting-slaughtered-on-the-internet/
https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/07/21/the-less-cool-version-of-batushka-has-released-a-new-song/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
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