In this conversation,Stephen and Ray are continuing the discussion on fascination imagination and wonder, adding to it a bit about storytelling, songwriting, and how dialect impacts destiny.

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Note: This conversation was recorded in 2022. 

*This Podcast Series is produced by Brightbell Creative.