How should we speak of safety in society? How ought we to understand and manage the origins of risk? And in doing so, where might we position police's role in producing either? Depending on who you talk to, "experiences may vary." Now a new report out of Atlantic Canada's largest urban centre proposes much less of a role for police in the larger justice equation—in some respects, no role at all. Prepared for no less than the Halifax Board of Police Commissioners, the report puts meat on the bones of the contentious concept of defunding.

Joining host/producer Rick Harp this week: activist, artist and scholar El Jones, Assistant Professor of Political and Canadian Studies at Mount Saint Vincent University, and one of the lead authors of Defunding the Police: Defining the Way Forward for HRM [Halifax Regional Municipality]. Also at the table this episode, Trina Roache, the Rogers Chair in Journalism at the University of King's College.

// CREDITS: Our opening/closing theme is 'nesting' by birocratic.