In this episode of the Politics Weekly, Mashatile sat down with Sunday Times' Sibongakonke Shoba, Kgothatso Madisa and Caiphus Kgosana for a wide ranging conversation including among other things his view on the country's just transition to green and renewable energy, the basic income grant and the now non-attendance of Russian President Vladimir Putin. 

Other topics of discussion include the ANC's plans to regain the majority vote in the 2024 general elections, recent claims to oust Mashatile from office and his contentious relationship with President Cyril Ramaphosa.