Artist Jonas Claesson joins the guys to share words of wisdom on how to get helpful direction and quick feedback from your clients (from the initial design brief!) to revision stages and presenting the finished product. They talk ways to avoid creative burnout and the amazingly coined feat of learning how to “fail forward.” Even Jonas’ worst fail ever comes with practical advice you can take and apply today to avoid it yourself. Nick and the Australia-based guest discuss their upcoming NFT releases while Tracey shares his advice on communication with your team and vendors. PLUS the most epic of showdowns - THE Australia vs. Sweden World Championships! What? That's right, it's episode 19, friends!

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