The Ringer’s Ben Lindbergh and Michael Baumann banter about Michael’s blasts-from-the-past Diamond Mind draft (0:20) and the White Sox broadcast crew’s beliefs about batting around (2:50), then discuss the evolution of BBWAA awards voting (0:00), why some of this season’s awards races are too close to call (5:35), and which players they would pick for MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year (11:10). Later, they bring back baseball historian, writer, and podcaster Steven Goldman to discuss ex-player precedents for Derek Jeter’s ascension to an ownership role with the Marlins (21:45), why the transition from beloved, legendary player to baseball-operations executive doesn’t always go smoothly (24:15), and whether the Marlins will be better off under the Jeter regime (29:50).

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