In this interview, John speaks with evangelical author Prof. Nancey Pearcey.

Pearcey offers valuable insights into issues surrounding the concept of masculinity, from the importance of fatherhood, to the history of the nuclear family, and the impact of Christianity on marriage. She argues that the latest sociological research shows that faithful Christian men make the most stable marriages, loving fathers, and happy families despite claims Christianity makes men "toxic".

Pearcey also critiques the modern loathing poured onto young boys and how it is manifesting in poor educational, physical, and familial outcomes. As a result, male social media influencers who present a harmful version of masculinity which encourages promiscuity and the rejection of marriage, have gained widespread support amongst young men. John and Pearcey conclude that to reverse these harmful effects, we should value fatherhood, promote positive Christian masculinity which is grounded in responsibility, and stop the open disdain of men in the public square.