In this emergency broadcast, Wayne and Michelle are joined by Nathaniel Gillis for a deep and unsettling discussion on The Age of Disclosure — and what may truly be unfolding beneath the surface of modern UFO narratives.

As governments, media, and Hollywood increasingly push the language of “disclosure,” questions are growing about what is being revealed, who is shaping the narrative, and why now. With a major UFO-themed Hollywood film scheduled for release on June 12, 2026, public interest in non-human intelligence has reached a new level.

But is disclosure really about extraterrestrial visitors — or something far older?

Nathaniel Gillis is a demonologist, paranormal researcher, and investigator of non-human intelligence, as well as the founder of Necronetics, a research framework examining the intersection of spiritual phenomena, ancient belief systems, and modern paranormal encounters. He is also the creator of Parasymposia, a new research platform dedicated to documenting and publishing his ongoing work.

In this episode, we explore:

• The meaning and origins of the “Age of Disclosure”

• Hollywood’s role in shaping UFO belief and public perception

• The upcoming disclosure-themed film and its messaging

• Historical figures such as Jack Parsons, L. Ron Hubbard, and Aleister Crowley

• The overlap between occult experimentation and modern UFO mythology

• Whether so-called “aliens” could represent ancient spiritual entities rather than extraterrestrial beings

• How religious, mythological, and paranormal traditions describe similar encounters using different language

This discussion is not about sensationalism — it is about patterns, history, symbolism, and research. We examine multiple interpretations of the phenomenon and ask whether modern disclosure narratives are revealing the truth… or reframing it.

👁️ Guest: Nathaniel Gillis
🛸 Hosts: Wayne & Michelle
🎙️ Show: Michigan UFO Sightings & Paranormal Encounters Podcast

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