Distory with Kate & Kirk

What story is the mining equipment telling us on Big Thunder Mountain?

On this episode of Distory, we complete our ride through of Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain, pausing to notice all the details and history along the way. We begin by discussing what Kirk calls the “Ram Trick” (and Kate insists is not a thing) before discovering an abandoned mine, a dangerous saw, and a few somewhat lackluster special effects (including why they are lackluster). As we hold on tight during this wild ride of an episode, we collect some facts about rocker boxes, miner’s moss, and how weather affects geothermal activity, before slowing down to spy the roundhouse and a blacksmith area that almost everyone misses. Kirk sings a little karaoke, Kate is too gullible when it comes to his jokes, and we share some thoughts about Marc Davis’s legacy and our own pursuit of what matters.

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Why is the mine in Big Thunder named Dave V. Jones?

And who exactly is dancing in the Gold Dust Saloon?

On this episode of Distory, we step aboard the Big Thunder Mountain trains in Walt Disney World to ride through the attraction, pointing out obscure history, details, and hidden gems along the way. After dodging some rubber bats and admiring some old cacti, we make a U-turn into the Town of Tumbleweed, at the very heart of all of this Big Thunder’s storytelling. From repurposed critters to sinking dad jokes and an important mess that everyone misses, this town is jam-packed full of Marc Davis nods and creative storytelling that most people miss. After petting the pigs goodbye, we head into the nautical-themed mine, find a connection back to the queue, and second-guess something we found back in Disneyland’s version of the ride. Kate disappoints Kirk by knowing a secret already, and Kirk throws it back with some old tunes and movie references before we come to a screeching halt at the bottom of B lift (to be continued next week).

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Is there a hidden canary in Big Thunder’s queue?

This episode of Distory is truly for the birds as we head into the ventilation room of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Walt Disney World. As we finish our exploration of the queue, we discuss one of the oldest popular forms of animation from the 1800s, resuscitate some canaries, and find some very dangerous rocks. Kate discovers a few more connections to the Apple Dumpling Gang (which Kirk clearly loves) and we both puzzle over a few items we have yet to figure out in the queue. Inching our way closer to getting on this wild ride, we both start to lose it as Kate resists the urge to be a completionist and Kirk contemplates investing in sticking tommies. But we are both delighted by something in the load area that no one ever notices (but hopefully will now).

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What if we’ve all been missing the most important storytelling elements of Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we go antiquing in Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain queue to uncover some mining history that is critical to understanding the storytelling of this iconic attraction. Along the way, we uncover some unsafe mining practices, find items that are from the “future,” comb through a dishonest foreman’s log, and discover dozens of details most people miss as they shuffle through the queue too fast to fully notice them. We also hear a harrowing tale from Kate’s dad about what it was like to actually be on a runaway mine train, and Kirk regales us with stories of bustles and foot binding as we find out what happened to Slue-Foot Sue. From derpy buffalo to explosive Imagineers and a woman smuggling gold in her petticoats, this episode will make you wish you had MORE time waiting in line for Big Thunder Mountain to see all of what you’ve been missing.

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Are there tommy knockers in Big Thunder Mountain?

And what movie do you NEED to watch to understand this queue?In this episode of Distory, we inch our way through the queue of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Walt Disney World. But we don’t get very far; in fact, there are so many hidden details and secrets in just the foreman's office that this entire episode is dedicated to that space alone. As we take in all of the hidden mining (and Disney) history, references, and secrets, we realize that one Disney movie above all else is mentioned way more times than we expected, and is a must-watch for any Distorian who wants to understand the queue of this iconic attraction. On our visit to the Big Thunder Mining company office, Kate points out an inconsistency with a wood stove, Kirk explains the mystery of Tommy Knockers, we both go a little cross-eyed trying to read the town bulletin board, and Kirk gets irritated with Kate (but she wins him over by talking about lamps).

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What item in Big Thunder's queue has significant ties to both American and Disney history?

In this episode of Distory, we go off the rails as we explore the spectacular beginnings of Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. From unbelievable vistas of an underdeveloped Frontierland to absurd mining jokes, we follow the early history of this iconic attraction through its opening day before heading to the beginning of the queue. From there, we have some fun unpacking even the smallest details of the outdoor queue area, including explaining how the set design illustrates the official backstory in ways you might not have noticed before. As we come around the bend toward the entrance, Kirk finds a way to trick Kate about a rusty bucket, Kate gets irritated at him for not listening, and we take an extended side trip to Joshua Hendy Iron Works to discover some men who helped shape the Disney parks as we know them.

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What parts of Disneyland’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad were borrowed from somewhere else?In this episode of Distory, we hop aboard Disneyland’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad for a complete ride-through of the attraction from load to unload, analyzing each scene for the hidden history it holds. From the history of gas lamps to the bones of Dinosaur Gap and everything in between, this episode is as wild as it gets, including real remnants from America’s gold mines, missing smoke effects, exploding livestock, and a very plaintive opossum. Along the way, we find a few pieces from Mine Train Through Nature’s Wonderland, talk about some changing water, and solve a few mysteries we’d considered in previous episodes. After an Irish serenade by Kate and Kirk doing his best Don Knotts impression, we splash down at the end of the ride and say goodbye to Disneyland with a secret Walt tribute and a story about a dramatically torn Disney fence.

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How is the People Mover (and Indiana Jones) related to Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we chug along in our story of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Disneyland as we highlight some of the unique processes and features of its construction. Though this episode had a few bumps in the rails (our audio/video had a glitch - sorry about that!) we still walk through the stories and secrets of the queue, including some antiques, superstitions, nods to other Big Thunders around the world, and an odd feature borrowed from another Disneyland attraction (and then subsequently adopted accidentally into a major movie franchise). As we come into the station (literally), we get angry at some trash cans, search for vultures, learn a thing or two about a logo, and discover a bizarre walrus that makes Kirk nervous. We end this episode at the beginning (of the ride, that is) where a few horseshoes and a little-noticed plaque will keep you busy the next time you’re waiting for the wildest ride in the wilderness.

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How did Walt Disney inspire the design of Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we head back to Disneyland to learn about how Imagineer Tony Baxter had to adapt the design of the iconic Big Thunder Mountain for a park it wasn’t intended for. Along the way, we learn the truth about some fossilized wood, dust off a few old National Geographic magazines for inspiration, and hear the original backstory of Jason Chandler. We also take a side trip to Discovery Bay and explore how Geyser Falls (and then Geyser Mountain) would have tied in thematically with the attraction we know and love today. Kirk takes notes on Kate’s begrudging acceptance of a former Disney CEO, Kate waxes poetic about how we view fear in rides and impossibility, and somewhere along the way Missy Elliott’s (fictional) influence on Big Thunder’s ride layout forever changes the way we view attraction.

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How many ideas for Big Thunder Mountain are simply recycled old ones?

In this episode of Distory, we keep chugging along in our Big Thunder Mountain series as we start by saying goodbye to Mine Train Through Nature’s Wonderland (but not before we learn a few lost concepts in an attempt to save it, some of which we see today in the current Big Thunder). After tearing down Cascade Peak and mentioning where a few of the animals made a new home, we hop over to Walt Disney World to learn about the largest never-built show structure in Disney’s history, Thunder Mesa. After some twists and turns on a (boring?) version of a runaway mine train, we roll to a stop as Tony Baxter takes the reins from Marc Davis and sketches the first concepts for the Big Thunder we know it today (well, before it was shelved and then built elsewhere). We take a rabbit trail to Pirates to debate what park wears it best, and Kirk derails Kate’s transitions as he recovers from climbing Everest on the Swiss Family Treehouse.

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