On this show Travis was joined by author, psychotherapist, spiritual advisor, storyteller, and seasoned teacher of Jewish mysticism Estelle Frankel, discussing her newest book, The Wisdom of Not Knowing – Discovering a Life of Wonder by Embracing Uncertainty. At times a paralyzing source of uncertainty, and at other times a starting point to a wonderful adventure, the unknown can be both friend or foe. In her book, Estelle brings profound wisdom and guidance to the unknown, providing practical tips and tools for embracing the challenges and possibilities in such challenging time of uncertainty.