Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Dr. Jordan Peterson, author of "12 Rules for Life," about what is actually informing COVID policy, the real dilemma of climate change, and his response when he is asked if he believes in God. First, Jordan discusses why we chose a totalitarian state as a response to the COVID epidemic and how fear, more than science, has been informing COVID policy. Next, Jordan discusses the horrible position liberals have put themselves in by pushing for expensive renewable energy while claiming to care for the poor. He explains why these plans will backfire and hurt the poor the most. Finally, he discusses what religion and spirituality mean to him. He shares the answer he gives when asked, "Does God exist?"

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