What if the secret to becoming a better runner isn't running more?

This week, Nicky sits down with coach John Ferry—Team Wilpers coach, Head Coach of New York City's Dashing Whippets Running Team, and lifelong student of the sport—to talk about why so many runners get stuck chasing the same results year after year.

From marathon training and ultrarunning to track racing and 5Ks, John shares why the best athletes aren't always doing more—they're often doing something different. We discuss the dangers of living in a constant marathon cycle, the value of speed work, why the 5K might be the most underrated race in running, and how thoughtful season planning can unlock breakthroughs at any level.

Along the way, we explore race-day mindset, finding your favorite kind of hard, the surprising power of relays and team competition, and why running should still be fun—even when you're taking it seriously.

Whether you're training for your first race, chasing a PR, or wondering if it's time to shake things up, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about what progress really looks like.

In this episode:

• Why more miles aren't always the answer
• The marathon trap many runners fall into
• How speed work can make you a better distance runner
• Why the 5K deserves more respect
• Marathon vs. ultra: which is actually harder?
• Mental strategies for pushing through tough races
• The role of community, relays, and fun in long-term success

Because sometimes the fastest way forward is trying something new.