What an interesting and odd story - let's see what David J Howe, fan historian and publisher extraordinaire, likes about it so much. The shortest episode of Classic Doctor Who has - because of your chatty host Toby Hadoke - provoked one of the longest episodes of this podcast. But that's what happens when you weave the facts of fiction..

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Zoe has a fight, we meet The Master (not that one), and there's some gorgeous imagery ... it's Episode 4 of The Mind Robber, the choice of writer, collector and Whostorian David J Howe. But what does he like best about this particular chunk of Doctor Who? Host Toby Hadoke has to guess. 

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Back in the Land of Fiction for the replacement of the replacement Jamie, some stop motion snakery, and another excellent contribution from historian and fandom legend David J Howe. He has to choose a favoutite thing from this instalment of Doctor Who - but will your host Toby Hadoke be able to anticipate what that might be and choose the same?

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So, Jamie's off his face, Zoe's out the door, and the Doctor's in a pickle as they find themselves inside a peculiar forest inhabited by strangely recognisable figures. Like much of the best Doctor Who, a lot of this episode's contents were the product of necessity - and who better than Doctor Who historian David J Howe to be our guide through this inventive and imaginative instalment? Your host has chicken pox and has been replaced for just one week by a totally different Toby Hadoke, but you'd never know if you weren't told. 

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One of the earliest fans to research and write-up the history of the show, publisher and writer (and collector!) David J Howe has chosen this atypical tale from the back end of the Troughton era. There's not much to this episode - the regulars, a white void, and some stock costumes ... and so in true Doctor Who fashion, it turns out to be quite a remarkable instalment. But what to choose as its best bit? Well, escape from reality and find out :)

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This is one of those episodes that rewards the eagle-eyed viewer, but it works on a purely entertainment level as well, as Toby Hadoke and guest Joe Lewallen discover (friends who've yet to meet, such is the manner of modern relationships). But will they choose the same favourite things about this gripping instalment : or do their different backgrounds mean they will approach it from opposing perspectives...?

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OK, out of host Toby Hadoke's comfort zone again - here we are with some of the first ever Matt Smith stuff to be recorded. Oh yes, Toby remembers when Mr Smith was new - seems like yesterday! Joe Lewallen, a friend from across the Pond (not Amy), is a fabulous and fascinating guest, and instead of plugging something for you to purchase, he has asked to link to a very good cause, which we are more than happy to do:

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Oh well this had been a joy. Who cares about a CSO'd puppet chewing a thing? It's got John Woodnutt talking about organic crystallography, it's got Maggie Thatcher at the end of the phone (yes, alright, it might be Barbara Castle of Shirley Williams), and it's got some gorgeous lighting too. What's not to love? Thanks to Daisy Connolly for being such a fabulous guest as well.

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Aw, how can you not LOVE guest Daisy Connolly's choice for this one - but let's not spoiler you here. Host Toby plays Spot The Extra (in this case, James Muir again), celebrates the Zygon design (of course), and adores this short lived TARDIS team. Oh it's so good this, and it takes a certain generation back to their childhood - and in Toby's case into a long, stuttering monologue with uncompleted metaphors. No change there then.

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What a story! There are some very odd things in it though - but none of them matter when everything is executed this well. Host Toby Hadoke and writer and reformed comic Daisy Connolly have a lot to digest - but is it really them? How can you be sure? And if you don't agree with them - well, don't get the pitchforks out...(they may end up being cut!).