The oil and gas industry is a cornerstone of the US economy, supporting 10 million jobs and contributing billions of dollars annually. However, concerns about CO2 emissions and declining returns are driving investors away. In this episode, Dr. David Victor, Professor of Innovation and Public Policy at UC San Diego, and Matt Gallagher, former CEO of Parsley Energy, debate whether a system based on low carbon energies could replicate the economic and employment benefits currently provided by oil and gas.