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It’s Halloween! Welcome to this SPOOKY episode of Says Who. Dan is just trying to get to the basement to record, but reality isn’t cooperating. Maureen has finally broken into her many spectral forms. And who keeps calling on the phone?

Then the real chills and thrills come: Olivia Nuzzi of the Daily Beast is here to talk about her fifteen months covering Donald Trump, including her trips into Trump Tower.

You’ll need to sleep with the lights on after this one, presuming you sleep at all. Ring, ring.

Olivia Nuzzi is a writer and journalist who covers politics for The Daily Beast. You can find her on Twitter here, and read her contributions to the Daily Beast here.

Your Intrepid Hosts: Maureen Johnson and Dan Sinker

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