Former President Donald Trump said the quiet part out loud at a rally in Atlanta last weekend—admitting he is supporting electric vehicles because of Tesla founder Elon Musk's endorsement. The New Abnormal co-hosts couldn’t believe that the same voters who elected Trump to the White House in 2016 on a pledge to “drain the swamp” enthusiastically applauded the former president kowtowing to Musk. Plus! Erin Matson, the co-founder and executive director of Reproaction, a national group increasing access to abortion services, joins the podcast to talk about the current landscape of reproductive healthcare in the U.S.

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