In this kickoff episode of ShipTalk Season 4, Dewan sits down with Nathen Harvey, DORA Lead and Developer Advocate at Google Cloud, to explore how DevOps metrics and AI are transforming software delivery.

From his early days in DevOps to leading the DORA initiative, Nathen shares lessons from open-source communities, the role of culture, and how AI is reshaping documentation, incident response, and even coding itself. They also dig into the 2025 DORA Survey, discuss when organizations should start tracking metrics, and what the future holds for engineering leaders.

🎙️ Your voice matters. Take the 2025 DORA survey (closes on July 18, 2025).

🎟️ Visit Harness Booth at DevOpsDays Dallas 2025 — and use the promo code SHIPTALK to take 20% off your ticket.