Dr. Barry Kort, scientist and MIT engineer, joins David Gornoski to discuss Systems Thinking. Dr. Kort takes us through the development of what is known as Chaos Theory and then describes how laws came to be in ancient civilizations. Rules-based societies often lead to more chaos, says Dr. Kort as he explains how we need to shift towards the gradual evolution of functions and how the work of Rene Girard helps in this process. Could math help us create a wiser and better society? Can our society elevate beyond the primitive-level existence of mere rules? Listen to the full episode to find out and more.

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