We welcomed our guest to discuss his paper, "A model for economic freedom on Mars" plus his recent book "Sovereign Mars: Transforming Our Values through Space Settlement" We talked quite a bit about a possible Mars economic system, settlement, do's and don'ts, capital usage on Marx, permissions for this or that from Earth and lots more. Toward the end of our hour, Jacob spoke to the UAP matter we have heard so much about. He was also clear that both his paper and his book were really thought experiments to get people talking about these issues soon rather than later. We talked Earth governance issues, possible timelines, Musk and how to target a larger audience for both Mars and settlement. Please read the full summary of this program at www.thespaceshow.com for this date, Friday, Nov. 22, 2024.