This week Clint and Russ interview Dr. Jesse McGuire an orthodontist out of Goodyear, AZ.  We talk about his journey from DSO medicaid orthodontist in Texas during the late 2000's and early 2010's and then moved to Phoenix to join another DSO to starting his own private practice office five years ago.  We talk about the challenges of running an ortho office and how he decides what to incorporate and what not to incorporate (hint it ain't Invisalign).  Overall it was a fun to talk with a dentist who isn't a GP and hear about how our worlds are pretty darn similar.