Dr. Phil Metzger was our guest on multiple topics. We started out talking about landing pads on the Moon and for Artemis. This proved to be a lengthy and detailed discussion the subject, information about how rocket exhaust spreads lunar dust, the adverse impact of lunar dust on hardware and more. We also talked about building a cislunar economy, policy making, space settlement, influencing the public and other important issues for our community including commentary on the book, "A City On Mars." Read the full summary when available at www.thespaceshow.com for this date, Tuesday, Jan. 14 2025.