‘Love like a mustard seed!’ In this episode of Natural Wanders we go for a plod with the fantastic conservation scientist and presenter Dr Rutendo Shackleton. While battling the elements in Cheshire, we chat about the social bonds of elephants, sharing space with nature and hosting the BBC Earth podcast.

BBC Earth podcast: www.bbcearth.com/podcast

Chester zoo: www.chesterzoo.org/what-we-do/our-zoo/biographies/rutendo-shackleton/

Gritty Talent: www.grittytalent.tv/gritty-represents

Social media: uk.linkedin.com/in/rutendo-shackleton-534728193?trk=public_profile_browsemap

mobile.twitter.com/dr_shack_

www.instagram.com/dr_shack_/

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