Talking Indonesia

Dr Yanuar Nugroho - Indonesia's Covid-19 Response


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The Indonesian government’s response to Covid-19 has been widely perceived as inadequate. Indonesia’s testing rate has been very low, sparking concerns that many Covid fatalities have gone undetected, but even so its current official death toll of 635 is the highest in Asia outside of China. It took almost a month after acknowledging its first case to declare a health emergency, enabling regions with high numbers of cases to institute social distancing. It was only on Tuesday this week that the government issued a ban on the annual mudik - where tens of millions of Indonesians living in major cities go home to rural areas at the end of Islamic fasting month, potentially taking Covid-19 with them. But with the fasting month starting at the end of this week, many Indonesians have already gone home.
What accounts for the Indonesian government response to Covid-19? What considerations have informed the government’s response, what challenges does it face, and does the crisis threaten the government’s legitimacy?
In this week’s Talking Indonesia podcast, Dr Dave McRae discusses these issues with Dr Yanuar Nugroho, former deputy chief of staff to President Jokowi during the president’s first term, and a member of the Indonesian Young Academy of Sciences, ALMI. Dr Nugroho is also currently a Visiting Senior Fellow at the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, an Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Manchester, and a senior advisor to the Centre for Innovation Policy and Governance in Jakarta.
The Talking Indonesia podcast is co-hosted by Dr Dave McRae from the University of Melbourne’s Asia Institute, Dr Jemma Purdey from Monash University, Dr Dirk Tomsa from La Trobe University, and Dr Charlotte Setijadi from the Singapore Management University.
Photo credit: Agung Rajasa for Antara Foto
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