Drifting

“Professional snowboarder” and “third-generation cattle rancher” aren’t two lives lived by one person — unless you’re Mark Carter. In this episode, he thinks back to the days of playing outdoors till the darkness brought him in, getting roped into snowboarding, and how being kind and workin’ hard has gotten him farther than anything.

Professional surfer Chris Malloy, the oldest of the Malloy brothers, spent 10 fulfilling years living as a nomad, spinning the globe every two months deciding where to live. In this episode, Chris sets back the clock with JT to relive the days of seeking solace in the ocean, using humor to overcome adversity, and hanging with his old friend Jack Johnson, who, at the time, was just writing songs “for fun”.

By his own estimate, professional fisherman and photographer David Mangum spends every hour of his waking life thinking about tarpon fishing — and for good reason. In this episode, David dives deep into the tale of his 3-hour fight to catch his first tarpon, the cult following of this elusive beast, and what it was like to have a 200 + lb. fish on the other end of the line.

All he wanted to do was ride bulls, and be a cowboy, and work on the ranch. But music wouldn’t leave him alone. Ryan talks about the complicated relationship of the best and the worst times in his life coinciding, and how his journey through darkness led him to the liberating realization that he could survive simply by playing music for people who wanted to hear his songs.

Mark Healey isn’t conquering anything. For him, becoming a waterman is an endless pursuit of learning how the ocean works, navigating on his own, and dealing with forces beyond his control. Mark talks with JT about surviving going under at Jaws, the importance of tagging sharks, and the intoxication of finding your limits. 

Terry’s created a compendium of work that’s expansive and can’t be categorized as anything but “Terry.” But his legendary status is still only recognized and revered by few. Terry shares about his melancholy nights with music, his artistic influences, and growing up in the days when you couldn’t find a bad song on the radio.

They say Roy is the idea man and Ryan is the outdoor consumer, but both brothers share a “never settle” attitude passed down from their entrepreneur dad and hardworking mom. It’s that relentless mindset that made them lose sleep over what the ultimate cooler might look like, and finally, grab the tiger by the tail and build one the world had never seen.

Where do you go after “national champion”? Kimi talks with JT about her shift away from her successful competitive spearfishing career towards where she is now – in a position to shine a light on being in harmony with the ecosystem as both a conservationist and a hunter. 

Shep Gordon is a humble Hollywood agent, producer, and talent agent who describes his life as “knee-jerk reactions”. But as the creator of celebrity chef and manager of household names like Alice Cooper and Blondie, we’d say his judgment calls are one to trust. Tune in as Shep shares his intriguing life journey — from getting punched by Janis Joplin to Elvis’ unexpected inspiration to his incredibly honest take on love.

From Guyana to Jackson Hole, fishing and even finance, Oliver White’s unique story traverses the dilemma of “goin’ all around, or just stayin’ put” – a challenge familiar to fatherhood. Since the recording of this episode, Hurricane Dorian devastated parts of the Bahamas, none worse hit than the island of Abaco and the lodge there built and run by Oliver. The stories in this conversation pertain to Abaco, pre-storm.