Drifting

Mike Spalding is one of two people on the planet to swim all nine channels of the Hawaiian islands, the only known human to be bitten by the cookiecutter shark, and a big advocate for human compassion. Drift along as he recounts a string of life stories with JT, uncovering advice from the Pope, the real enemy of the water, and the time his friend accidentally swallowed a jellyfish

Jako Lucas – a renowned fly guide from South Africa – and JT, a long-time Texan, discuss the South African way, and what being a guide affords. In this episode there’s a lot of talk about fish, legacies, and what the flats are for. 

According to her, she’s just there to make the boat go fast. And that she does – breaking records in Hawaiian open-ocean paddling, and qualifying for and competing in the Olympics. Lauren Spalding and JT discuss balance and being a top athlete who understands that having a beer after is what it’s all about.  

Actor and filmmaker Ethan Hawke joins JT for an intimate conversation on art and living, on fathers, stepfathers, and becoming fathers. Ethan tells stories about directing his film Blaze, the Blaze Foley biopic. 

JT interviews Dan Malloy, the youngest of the Malloy brothers surfing family. Dan tells of how an injury on the waves led him to redefine his passion for the sport and how being in touch with both land and sea helped him find meaning in the throes of depression.

Two long time fishing buddies do what they do best – talk about fishing. Go way back with Alvin and JT as they reminisce about punk rock, share their principles on being a jerk, and talk about the good ol’ days, when real confrontation meant the threat of getting punched in the face. 

Wyman Meinzer, the official state photographer of Texas, reminisces with JT about making the switch from shooting with a rifle to shooting with a lens, the close encounter that changed the course of his career, and how critical it is, especially now, to pull up a chair and listen to a storied neighbor tell their tale. 

Fame is a strange and relative thing. After years of being the underdog and playing songs to no one, there’s still the feeling that, at any moment, the tables could turn back – a feeling which JT assures Margo, there’s not a chance. 

Remi is a hunter and conservationist who’s spent “an assload of time in the woods.” With JT, he discusses surviving a Kodiak bear attack and the virtues of self-reliance, which are, incidentally, unrelated topics.

Eat. Sleep. Bull riding. Every day. Host JT digs into the wisdom that JB’s gleaned over the years as a seasoned (and tenderized) bull rider, on raising a tough-as-hell daughter, plus an injury report that should come with a listener warning.