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The Italian Food Secret LA Has Been Hiding
This week on Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler sit down with Michelin-recognized chef and restaurateur Steve Samson for a rich, hilarious, and deeply personal conversation about Italian food, the restaurant life, and what it really takes to build something lasting in Los Angeles.
Steve is the chef and co-owner of Rosso Blu in downtown LA, a Bolognese-inspired restaurant that Rich and Sarah recently visited and could not stop raving about. From the wood-burning oven to the legendary gnocchi to the iconic burro e oro tortelloni, this episode is a love letter to great Italian cooking and the people who dedicate their lives to it.
Steve opens up about growing up spending summers in Bologna with his grandparents, how food was always the center of family life, and how those memories eventually led him to leave behind a stack of med school applications and enroll in culinary school in New York City. He talks about his early kitchens in Soho and Maine, his time working with Piero Selvaggio at Valentino in Las Vegas, and how the vision for Rosso Blu was born from a simple idea: cook the food his mother made.
The conversation gets real when Steve talks about the economics of running a restaurant in California, the crushing costs post-pandemic, labor laws, tip credits, and why places that used to be neighborhood spots are now special occasion dinners. His wife and partner Dina gets a major shout-out as the operational backbone of everything they have built together.
It is funny, warm, food-obsessed, and packed with the kind of honesty you only get when great wine is flowing. Do not miss it.
Guest InfoSteve Samson is a Los Angeles-based chef, restaurateur, and co-founder of Rosso Blu, a critically acclaimed Bolognese-inspired restaurant located in the Fashion District of downtown Los Angeles. Steve was born in Brooklyn, raised in Los Angeles, and spent formative summers in Bologna, Italy, where his mother's family shaped his deep love for traditional northern Italian cuisine. He trained at Peter Kump's Cooking School in New York City, cooked in celebrated New York kitchens, and worked with legendary restaurateur Piero Selvaggio at Valentino in Las Vegas before returning to LA. He co-founded Sotto on Pico Boulevard, a beloved Southern Italian restaurant, before opening Rosso Blu with his wife and business partner Dina Samson. Rosso Blu has received Michelin recognition and has been written up in virtually every major food publication. Steve is known for presenting dishes with photographs of his family in Italy and the stories behind each recipe, making every meal at Rosso Blu a deeply personal experience.
๐ Guest Social Links
Restaurant Website: https://www.rossoblu.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefstevesamson/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/steve.samson.311
Restaurant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rossoblula/
Drink of the Podcast
Feudi di San Gregorio Cutizzi, 100% Greco di Tufo, Campania, Italy
Rich and Sarah kicked off the episode with this stunning summer white from the Campania region of southern Italy, made entirely from the Greco grape. Feudi di San Gregorio is one of the most respected producers in southern Italy and the Cutizzi is their flagship expression of Greco di Tufo, known for its mineral-driven structure, stone fruit aromatics, and refreshing acidity. Rich described it as one of his favorite summer whites and noted it goes particularly well in a jacuzzi. They also poured Castello di Bolgheri by Antinori cousins, a Super Tuscan at around $150 a bottle, which Steve got to enjoy toward the end of the episode.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome & Drink of the Podcast - Feudi di San Gregorio Cutizzi, Greco di Tufo
03:15 Introducing Chef Steve Samson - Michelin-Recognized Chef & Owner of Rosso Blu
09:05 The Story Behind the Menu - Presenting Dishes with Family Photos from Bologna
13:05 Bologna's Three Nicknames - La Dotta, La Grassa, La Rossa
18:45 Peter Kump's Cooking School, NYC โ Now Called ICE, Institute of Culinary Education
19:45 First Kitchen Job - Little Cranberry Island, Maine & the Lobster Dock Next Door
23:35 In the Weeds - The Term, What It Means in Any Vocation & Getting Through It
26:05 After-Hours NYC - Blue Ribbon, Seafood Towers & the Chefs Who Ran the Night
29:00 Building Your Chops - Garmanger, Pantry Station, Day Rates & Learning to Cook Professionally
31:50 Chefs Don't Trash Talk Each Other - Tom Colicchio, Nancy Silverton & the Respect in the Industry
35:55 No Tip Credit in California - What It Means, What It Costs & Why Sacramento Won't Change It
38:30 Shout Out to Dina Samson - The Glue, the Beast, the Operational Backbone of Rosso Blu
40:30 Post-COVID Costs - How Rising Prices Changed the Dining Landscape for Everyone
43:45 Your Gnocchi Changed My Life - The Secrets, Old Potatoes & Why It Goes So Wrong
48:20 The Test Kitchen Space - What Was There Before Sotto & the Chefs Who Came Through
50:30 Michael Voltaggio, Ink, Ink Sack & Great LA Restaurants We've Lost
55:00 Molecular Gastronomy, Emulsifiers & Why Italian Cooking Needs None of It
59:50 Paris, Amsterdam, Youth Hostels & the Bouillons - Traveling with the Kids on a Budget
61:00 Cafรฉ d'Argent, Paris - The Numbered Duck & a Wine Cellar with 50,000 Bottles
64:00 Where to Find Steve & Rosso Blu + Thank Yous & Sign Off
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Jennifer M Shaffer Talks Apparitions, the FBI and a Bottle of Chardonay
Comedians Sarah J. Halstead and Rich Chassler pop a 2021 Gentleman Farmer 100% Chardonnay and pour it out with Jennifer M. Shaffer internationally recognized intuitive, spiritual medium, medical intuitive, and former stockbroker-turned-triathlete who's worked with the FBI, U.S. Secret Service, and Dark Web Division. They cover ADHD-approved Chardonnay, 800 bottles stashed in kitchen drawers, the secret to a 30-year marriage, why Jennifer never watches the news, the French Bulldog bedspread that cracked an FBI fentanyl case, and the night she sees full-blown apparitions walking through her bedroom window. Equal parts hilarious, terrifying, and oddly comforting.
๐ป Guest InfoJennifer M. Shaffer is an internationally recognized Intuitive Spiritual Medium, Investigative Case Expert, and Medical Intuitive based in Manhattan Beach, CA. A former stockbroker who managed half a billion dollars in her 20s and a professional triathlete, she's a Founding Member of the Intuitive Investigations Academy, a Social Activism Award winner, and the subject of four best-selling books. Jennifer hosts her signature Wine & Spirit Gallery Readings at Uncorked Manhattan Beach twice a month.
๐ฑ Guest Social LinksInstagram: @jennifermshaffer โฆ https://www.instagram.com/jennifermshaffer/?hl=en
Facebook: JSIntuitiveInvestigationAlliances โฆ https://www.facebook.com/JSIntuitiveInvestigationAlliances/
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๐ Website: jennifershaffer.com โฆhttps://jennifershaffer.com/
Gentleman Farmer 2021 100% Chardonnay Made by DDBH friends Jeff Durham & Joe (Joey) Wallows of Gentleman Farmer Wines.
Varietal: 100% Chardonnay
Style: Full malolactic fermentation โ that buttery, creamy mouthfeel
Climate: Warm climate โ pours a rich, deep gold
Flavor: Fuller-bodied, lower acid
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๐ฅ Drank from RIEDEL Chardonnay-specific varietal glasses โฆhttps://www.riedel.com/
๐ Chapters00:00 Welcome & The Pour (Gentleman Farmer Chardonnay)
02:28 Meet Jennifer M. Shaffer
07:12 The Wine Snob & 800 Bottles in Kitchen Drawers
12:45 The Secret to a 30-Year Marriage
16:33 Working With the FBI, U.S. Secret Service & Dark Web
23:31 When a Killer Calls Her Office
26:31 Why She Never Watches the News
31:29 Alzheimer's & "Having Fun on the Other Side"
41:26 Vulnerability & Letting the World In
48:58 Dr. Phil & The Heart Attack She Predicted
51:33 Psychedelics: Ketamine, MDMA & Psilocybin
56:46 Sleep, Alpha State & Seeing Apparitions
60:42 The Mentalism Card Trick with Gabe Abelson
64:18 Wine & Spirit Gallery Readings at Uncorked Manhattan Beach
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Drinking During Business Hours - Where Comedy & Fine Wine Meet. ๐ฅ
Keith Reza on Comedy, Fame, and Never Giving Up
This week on Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler sit down with comedian, actor, writer, and podcaster Keith Reza for a funny, candid, and inspiring conversation about building a career in comedy, staying persistent in entertainment, and carving out your own voice in a brutally competitive business.
With roots in stand-up, a long-running podcast of his own, and years spent learning from the legendary Norm Macdonald, Keith brings the kind of behind-the-scenes perspective comedy fans love.
From the grind of live comedy to storytelling, podcasting, industry survival, and the mindset it takes to keep going, this episode is a great listen for comics, creators, and anybody chasing a creative life. If you love conversations about stand-up, entertainment, mental resilience, and the reality behind making it, this one belongs on your watchlist.
๐ค Guest Info
Keith Reza is a stand-up comedian, actor, writer, and podcast host with more than 20 years in comedy. He was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome at 13 and found comedy as a way to connect with people and navigate the world. He was mentored by Norm Macdonald for nine years, contributed as a writer on Norm Macdonald Has a Show and Norm Macdonald Live, has appeared on NBC, Animal Planet, and Netflix Is A Joke, and released the special Keith Reza: Make It Happen. He also hosts the long-running celebrity interview podcast Reza Rifts.
๐ Guest Social Links
Website: https://www.keithreza.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithreza/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realkeithreza
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Podcast - Reza Rifts: https://www.keithreza.com/gallery
๐ท Drink of the Podcast
Drink of the Podcast: Molto Bene Mocktails
Whether it's wine, cocktails, or something unexpected, the drink always sets the tone on Drinking During Business Hours, where comedy, conversation, and happy hour energy always meet in the middle.
โฑ๏ธ Chapters00:00 Intro to Keith Reza
02:15 Keith's comedy journey
06:40 Learning from Norm Macdonald
11:05 Writing, performing, and finding your voice
16:20 The reality of stand-up life
22:10 Hosting Reza Rifts
28:35 Comedy, resilience, and mental toughness
35:00 Entertainment industry lessons
42:25 What keeps comedians going
49:10 Final thoughts and where to follow Keith
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Comedian Darren Carter joins Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler for a coffee-fueled masterclass on building a stand-up career in the social media age. Carter pulls back the curtain on nearly four decades of comedy, from his Fresno forensics team days to headlining the Laugh Factory, Comedy Central, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, and booking a Showtime special after landing a Miller Beer national commercial as only his third audition.
The trio dives into his headshot story (shot by a Fresno photographer who drove a van down to LA to shoot sets), the strategic genius of always choosing slot #19 at the Laugh Factory Tuesday Night Live, the power of voices and impressions, and his daily social media workflow using iMovie and CapCut, including the secret weapon of trial reels. Along the way Carter shares the legendary Minnie Pearl advice he keeps in his Notes app: "Love them with your heart and they'll love you right back."
It's a joyful, generous, hilarious hour that feels like pulling up a bar stool with three working comedians. Today we're drinking coffee.
Guest InfoDarren Carter is a stand-up comedian, actor, and podcaster based in Sherman Oaks, California. He's performed on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Comedy Central, and booked a Showtime special. On screen, he's starred opposite John Travolta. Off stage he's a family man and the host of the podcast Pocket Party. Carter started comedy in his hometown of Fresno in 1989, sharpened his chops in high school forensics (Dramatic Interpretation, Humorous Interpretation, Original Prose & Poetry, and Speech to Entertain, plus the dreaded Lincoln-Douglas debate), took a Variety Arts class at Fresno City College, then moved to LA. He's a paid regular at both the Comedy Store and the Laugh Factory, and he's cracked the social media consistency code with daily uploads across Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
Guest Social LinksInstagram @officialdarrencarter โฆ https://www.instagram.com/officialdarrencarter/
Linktree โฆ https://linktr.ee/DarrenCarter
YouTube โฆhttp://youtube.com/DarrenCarter
TikTok โฆ https://www.tiktok.com/@officialdarrencarter
Facebook โฆ https://www.facebook.com/DarrenCarterOfficialFanPage?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Pocket Party on Apple Podcasts โฆ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/darren-carter-pocket-party/id1373544111?mt=2
Drink of the Podcast (NOT SPONSORED) We just really like this brand of Organic Mushroom Coffee.Six adaptogenic mushrooms, no jitters, medium price-tier subscription.
Hosts Sarah and Rich are drinking it because the guest requested coffee. This is the first time DDBH has gone caffeine-fueled instead of wine-fueled, and the conversation is no less intoxicating. Carter ordered a vanilla iced latte alongside.
"It doesn't give me the jitters like regular coffeeโฆ but you'll go broke drinking it." - Rich Chassler
Ryze Mushroom Coffee โฆ https://www.ryzesuperfoods.com/pages/shop-all?srsltid=AfmBOorKrz2kUh7SB0UHHxzGUhyMObP4iM5xah2BxPOo3xJ0YMdSxYXr
Chapters
0:00 Cold Open & Welcome, Sarah & Rich kick off the show
1:00 The Drink Today: Organic Mushroom Coffee, adaptogens, ~$54/mo, no jitters
4:16 Introducing Darren Carter, Tonight Show, Comedy Central, starred opposite John Travolta
4:40 The Headshot Story, photographer Frankie Lee L driving down from Fresno to shoot LA open-micers
11:00 Beginners Luck vs Inherent Energy, does your excitement get you the room?
13:00 Social Media Routine, daily uploads, 90-second reels, the magic of trial reels (1 to 5/day)
17:51 Editing Workflow, iMovie to phone to CapCut Pro: bright, loud, watermarked
24:00 New Bits vs Old Material, "Think of the room like an art gallery: today I'm putting up Darren Carter 2026."
29:00 Repackaging Old Footage, combine two days, add a GIF, change the hook, fool the algorithm
31:00 Bar vs Belly Room Productivity, 1992 vs 2026 (Barry Katz: "Nothing good happens on the couch")
33:00 Selling Tickets in 2026 vs The Old Days, when clubs had phone-banking teams, radio hits, the Last Laugh in San Jose
36:08 Comedy Origins in Fresno, career day, forensics team (DI, HI, OPP, STE, Lincoln-Douglas debate)
42:00 Moving to LA & Laugh Factory Tuesday Night Live, meeting roommate Julian Jones, the slot-19 strategy
45:10 The Power of Voices & Impressions, Bart Simpson, Snagglepuss, Gangs of Nebraska, Danny Lobell's Jackie Mason
49:00 Breaking Big, Miller Beer commercial (3rd audition, 1995), SAG card, Showtime special, Comedy Store + Laugh Factory regular
51:30 "Love Them With Your Heart," the Minnie Pearl advice that changed his stage life
53:16 A Long Beach Lesson in Professionalism, never call out the crowd (the bringer-caller tanked his set)
54:20 Pocket Party + Where to Find Darren, Instagram, Linktree, YouTube, TikTok
55:28 Shoutouts, Bass Home Studios / Doug Bass (plugs for anyone wanting a podcast space), Riedel Glassware, Corey Fry
57:00 Sign-Off, like, subscribe, five stars, see you next week
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David Leaf on Brian Wilson, SMiLE & The Beach Boys
In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler welcome back acclaimed writer, filmmaker, and UCLA professor David Leaf for a funny, wide-ranging, and surprisingly moving conversation about music, storytelling, teaching, and his deeply personal friendship with Brian Wilson. What starts with mocktails and comedy banter turns into a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at Pet Sounds, SMiLE, The Beatles, and what it really means to devote your life to great art.David shares how he moved to Los Angeles determined to write about Brian Wilson, how that dream eventually led him into Wilson's inner circle, and why helping bring SMiLE back to life became one of the defining missions of his career. He also talks about teaching legendary UCLA music courses, the "four Ds of success," documentary filmmaking, movie scores, and why the emotional power of music matters more than technical theory.
Guest Info
David Leaf is an award-winning writer, director, producer, and one of the most respected chroniclers of The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson. He is the author of The Beach Boys and the California Myth, God Only Knows, and SMiLE: The Rise, Fall & Resurrection of Brian Wilson. He also teaches at UCLA, where he leads acclaimed classes on The Beatles, songwriting, and music documentaries.
Guest Social Links
Website: leafprod.com
Instagram: @davidleafwriter
Facebook: David Leaf
Molto Bene Ginger Beer Mocktail Sarah and Rich sip an alcohol-free mocktail built around Molto Bene ginger beer, while also shouting out San Benedetto, the Italian water brand behind it. They discuss why they love alcohol-free options, sparkling water, and beverages with no sodium making this one of the more mocktail-forward episodes of the show.
Chapters00:58 What they're drinking: Molto Bene ginger beer mocktails
04:59 Introducing return guest David Leaf
06:33 California drought talk, comedy, and desert living
09:42 David on life, relationships, and long engagements
11:39 Teaching at UCLA and why students don't read
18:54 The Beatles, Yoko Ono, and music storytelling
20:15 David's move to L.A. to write about Brian Wilson
22:16 The accidental rise of The Beach Boys
24:03 David's "four Ds of success"
27:20 Movie scores, composers, and how music shapes film
31:43 David's new book: SMiLE: The Rise, Fall & Resurrection of Brian Wilson
35:15 Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations, and the collapse of SMiLE
41:54 Helping Brian Wilson finally complete SMiLE
48:40 Writing process, oral history, and preserving music history
55:08 Where to find David Leaf online
59:14 Host plugs, thank-yous, and sponsor shout-outs
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Lesley Wolff on Hollywood Casting, Comedy & Acting Careers
In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler sit down with casting director, producer, teacher, comedian, and actor Lesley Wolff for a fast, funny, insider-heavy conversation about casting, stand-up, commercials, creative survival, and how the entertainment business really works. The episode starts over a Michigan rosรฉ and quickly turns into a candid, hilarious talk about commercial auditions, stage moms, acting insecurity, networking, comedy culture, and why visibility can matter as much as talent in Hollywood.
Lesley also opens up about her long career developing comedy talent, her Fresh Faces workshop philosophy, and her frustration with gatekeeping in entertainment. One of the most interesting parts of the episode is her discussion of AI, digital casting, and the future of the business โ especially how creators, actors, and comedians may need to adapt to a much more self-generated, tech-driven industry. Funny, brutally honest, and packed with useful perspective, this episode is a great listen for comics, actors, casting nerds, and anyone trying to make a living in entertainment.
Guest InfoLesley Wolff is a casting director, actress, comedy mentor, and founder of the Fresh Faces Stand-Up Comedy Workshop. Public profiles describe her as a longtime talent developer and "Comic Fluffer," with acting credits including Weeds, The George Lopez Show / Lopez, No Way Jose, and Guest House, plus work in digital, TV, film, and comedy development.
Her background also includes TV writing, comedy production, and talent development across multiple lanes of entertainment. VoyageLA notes that she wrote for ABC's Recess and Sweet Valley High, produced comedy showcases featuring major names, and built Wolff Casting as a boutique casting company with a strong digital and comedy focus.
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Instagram: @lesleywolffisthephotobomb โฆ https://www.instagram.com/lesleywolffisthephotobomb/?hl=en
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Drink of the Podcast
This episode features a Michigan rosรฉ from Achrimรจre Wines in Traverse City, made by Aimee Desautels. In the episode, Sarah describes it as a female-owned Michigan wine with a creamy mouthfeel and red-fruit notes, while the group riffs on rosรฉ, wine education, and how fun it is to discover bottles outside the usual Napa/Bordeaux lane.
Chapters
00:48 Today's drink: Michigan rosรฉ from Achrimรจre Wines
02:31 Introducing Lesley Wolff
05:42 Commercial casting, beginner's luck, and stage mom energy
10:20 Acting vs casting and why commercials are their own skill
14:35 Audition psychology, networking, and "talent" myths
19:30 Casting power, director callbacks, and how jobs really get decided
20:52 Lesley's new casting venture and cutting through gatekeeping
24:10 AI, self-tapes, digital likeness, and the future of casting
31:45 Romanticizing the old acting world vs today's business
34:45 How Sarah and Rich met in the improv parking lot
39:00 Comedy community, mentors, Brody, Mitch Hedberg, and support systems
47:00 Joke writing vs personal storytelling in stand-up
52:20 Dying on stage, producing shows, and building audience trust
57:00 Why artists can't quit, and what success really means
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In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler welcome comedian, actor, and producer Mateen Stewart for a hilarious and wide-ranging conversation over BuzzBox cocktails. The episode kicks off with sports fandom, Detroit pride, Knicks talk, and the emotional damage of being a lifelong Lions fan before shifting into Mateen's path through acting, theater, summer camps, and eventually stand-up comedy.
As the conversation unfolds, Mateen shares how a simple goal to try three minutes at an open mic turned into a full comedy career, along with stories about comedy classes, bringer shows, ticket-selling pressure, and the strange realities of the stand-up business. Sarah, Rich, and Mateen also dig into what makes comedians relatable, why life experience matters on stage, and how the industry keeps changing with streaming, social media, and audience habits.
The episode lands on a personal and inspiring note when Mateen talks about losing his mother, the wisdom she gave him, and how her phrase "Bigger Doors" became the title of his special. Funny, honest, and packed with insight about show business, persistence, and creative life, this is a great episode for comedy fans, entertainers, and anyone trying to build a career in the arts.
Guest InfoMateen Stewart is a Detroit-born stand-up comedian and actor who studied theater at Florida A&M University. Public sources credit him with screen appearances tied to Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Jimmy Kimmel Live!, and acting credits including Comics Unleashed, Comedy Parlour Live: Quarantine Edition, The Devil Comes to Kansas City, and NTSF:SD:SUV::. In the episode, Mateen also plugs his special Bigger Doors, available on YouTube.
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Drink of the Podcast
This episode features BuzzBox premium ready-to-drink cocktails, starting with a Vodka Cranberry, then moving to Whiskey Lemonade, and finishing with the Mardi Gras Hurricane. Sarah and Rich describe the boxed cocktails as recyclable, portable, and surprisingly strong with a shoutout to Kevin from BuzzBox for supplying the drinks.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome back to Drinking During Business Hours
01:30 BuzzBox cocktails and what everyone is drinking
03:22 Introducing Mateen Stewart
03:35 Detroit sports, Knicks fandom, and Lions heartbreak
09:30 Summer camps, Long Island, and counselor life
17:32 From acting auditions to discovering stand-up comedy
21:50 Comedy classes, bringer shows, and first stage highs
27:47 Success, comedy credits, and industry respect
30:20 Bad networking, comedy etiquette, and checking in with the host
35:10 Social media, ticket sales, and the changing stand-up business
40:20 Third cocktail pour and Mateen's theater background
42:55 Wedding DJing, officiating, and using life in comedy
46:15 Losing his mother and the meaning behind Bigger Doors
50:45 Writing scripts, pitching projects, and handling rejection
55:20 Detroit loyalty, LA life, and hometown identity
57:55 Where to find Mateen and upcoming road dates
59:10 Final thank-yous, plugs, and outro
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She Did Fallon While Raising Twin Boys?! | Jessica Keenan on Comedy, Motherhood & Chaos
In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler welcome comedian, writer, actress, mother, and now homeowner Jessica Keenan for a hilarious and refreshingly honest conversation about stand-up comedy, motherhood, ambition, marriage, wine, and trying to keep your identity intact while juggling all of it. The episode opens with a playful conversation about launching the show on YouTube, dealing with comments online, and a passionate breakdown of the featured wine before the hosts bring Jessica into the mix.
Once Jessica joins the conversation, the episode quickly becomes one of those classic Drinking During Business Hours hangs where funny stories and real talk bounce off each other effortlessly. Jessica talks about recently moving closer to the clubs after years of brutal driving, her husband's finance job at a wire manufacturing company, her roots in Las Vegas, and how speech and debate helped shape the performer she would eventually become. She also gets into how she fell in love with stand-up, why classes helped her commit to the craft, and how chasing that first great set feels a lot like gambling.
The conversation gets even richer when Jessica opens up about being a comedian with identical twin boys, balancing life on the road with motherhood, and how comedy fits into family life. Sarah, Rich, and Jessica also dive into the realities of women in comedy, late-night TV pressure, outfit panic before The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, hair and makeup anxiety, true crime obsession, sleep habits, and the strange overlap between ambition and everyday chaos. It is funny, candid, and full of the kind of chemistry that makes this podcast feel like being at the table with them.
Guest InfoJessica Keenan is a stand-up comedian, writer, and actress who has performed in high-profile comedy rooms across Los Angeles and beyond. In this episode, Sarah and Rich talk with Jessica about her comedy journey since starting stand-up in 2012, her background in speech and debate, her experience performing on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, and what it means to stay active and relevant in comedy while raising young twin boys.
Jessica comes across as sharp, self-aware, grounded, and seriously funny. She talks openly about the hustle of the business, the importance of balance, and why she never wanted comedy to become the kind of life that prevented her from actually living. That perspective gives this episode a really strong center beneath all the jokes.
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Drink of the PodcastSangiovese from Tuscany, Italy
This week's featured wine is a Sangiovese from Tuscany, Italy. Sarah describes it as transparent in color, Pinot Noir-like at first glance, but unmistakably Sangiovese once you taste it and see the orange rim. She highlights its beautiful red fruit profile, darker brooding undertones from age, and the fact that it works both with food and on its own. The hosts even joke that it is light enough to enjoy with an ice cube by the pool. The producer and vintage are not stated in the episode.
Chapters00:00 Welcome back and YouTube channel shoutout
01:56 The reality of comments, haters, and playing to camera
02:08 Wine intro: Sangiovese from Tuscany, Italy
03:50 Why good bottles should be opened now, not saved forever
04:35 Introducing Jessica Keenan
08:14 Moving closer to the clubs and years of brutal LA driving
09:48 Jessica's husband, finance, and the mysterious smell of wire
15:24 Comedy rooms, lineups, and women in stand-up
15:38 How Jessica got started in stand-up and speech/debate roots
26:04 Motherhood, identical twin boys, and balancing comedy with family life
35:03 Marriage, dating comics, and finding the right partner
35:13 Jessica's Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon story
39:11 The pressure of outfits, hair, makeup, and late-night TV presentation
48:44 Sleep habits, meditation music, and true crime at bedtime
54:43 Twin boys, attention, and whether the kids inherited the funny
57:43 Where to follow Jessica, Sarah, Rich, and subscribe to the show's YouTube
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We Launched Our YouTube Channel | Comedy, Champagne, New York Stories & Married Life
In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, Sarah Halstead and Rich Chassler catch up on everything happening behind the scenes from the launch of their new YouTube channel to comedy shows, New York stories, burnout, voting, marriage, taxes, and of course, what they're drinking.
Over a bottle of Andre Delorme Blanc de Blanc, the conversation bounces from hilarious married-host banter into a genuinely interesting deep dive on sparkling wine, including champagne history, aging on the lees, riddling bottles, and why "brut" may have gotten its name. From there, Sarah and Rich talk about the evolution of the podcast, what audiences want more of, the pressure of nonstop content creation, and why they're trying to slow down a little this month.
They also recap Rich's New York trip, awkward run-ins with social media comics, upcoming comedy plans, a Byron Allen premiere party, and their appreciation for the comedy community. Funny, loose, and personal, this episode is classic Drinking During Business Hours: wine, comedy, culture, and real-life chaos.
Drink of the PodcastAndre Delorme Blanc de Blanc A sparkling Burgundy made from 100% Chardonnay.
This bottle Is a standout alternative to champagne and talk about Sparkling Burgundy vs. Champagne:
Aging on the lees
Brioche / baked bread notes in sparkling wine
Exploding bottles in early champagne production
Riddlers, disgorgement, and Madame Clicquot
The folklore behind the word brut
00:00 Welcome back + married-host banter 02:23 Big news: the DDBH YouTube channel is live 02:33 Drink of the episode: Andre Delorme Blanc de Blanc 04:10 Sparkling Burgundy vs. Champagne 05:40 What "aging on the lees" actually means 07:35 Madame Clicquot and the evolution of champagne 08:37 The story behind the word "brut" 09:59 How much wine talk do listeners really want? 12:09 Sarah's champagne dinner in Beverly Hills 12:57 What kind of content do listeners want more of? 17:04 Why launching the podcast on YouTube matters 19:28 Rich's New York trip and headlining Rodney's 20:17 Social media comics vs. real-life comedy culture
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Bob Kushell on The Simpsons, Stand Up, and Starting Over in Hollywood
What happens when a veteran TV comedy writer steps away from the writers' room and starts over in stand-up?
In this episode of Drinking During Business Hours, hosts Sarah Halstead and Rich Chasler sit down with legendary television writer, producer, showrunner, and comedian Bob Kushell for a funny, candid, and deeply personal conversation about comedy, Hollywood, reinvention, and finding your voice again.
Bob Kushell shares stories from his incredible career writing and producing some of television's most iconic shows, including The Simpsons, Dream On, 3rd Rock from the Sun, Grounded for Life, Anger Management, The Muppets, and more. He opens up about the realities of TV writers' rooms, the pressure of writing comedy at the highest level, and why stand-up comedy has become the most authentic creative work of his life.
Over a bottle of 2020 Cab Franc from Absolution Cellars, the conversation explores the changing culture of Hollywood, public setbacks, personal growth, healing through comedy, and the courage it takes to begin again.
If you love comedy podcasts, stand-up comedy, TV writing, Hollywood stories, creative reinvention, and behind-the-scenes entertainment industry conversations, this episode is for you.
Guest InfoBob Kushell is a veteran television writer, producer, and showrunner whose credits include Dream On, The Simpsons, 3rd Rock from the Sun, Grounded for Life, Anger Management, The Muppets, and the British comedy Way to Go.
In this episode, Bob shares stories from his decades in television, talks about the changing culture of Hollywood, and explains why performing stand-up comedy full-time now feels like the most authentic work of his career.
Guest Social LinksBob Kushell Instagram: @bob.kushell
Drink of the Podcast2020 Cab Franc, Absolution Cellars A Central Coast California Cab Franc with a story behind it, discovered by Sarah and Rich during a trip to Morro Bay. The hosts also shout out the winery's distinctive hand-painted labels and family-run feel.
Chapters00:00 Welcome and wine intro: Absolution Cellars Cab Franc
04:40 Introducing Bob Kushell
07:10 Why stand-up now feels like home
15:45 Bob's early writing life and first TV jobs
21:30 Dream On, The Simpsons, and 3rd Rock from the Sun
34:50 The joy of making his own work
38:15 Career fallout, writers' rooms, and changing Hollywood
59:20 Returning to stand-up after years away
1:01:45 Socials, upcoming shows, and wrap-up
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