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  • Why Midlife Women Should Care About the Manosphere

    The manosphere is shaping conversations about relationships, masculinity, and feminism in ways many midlife women may not even realize. Karen and Lisa unpack the rise of this online movement with curiosity, compassion, and honesty—exploring how loneliness, social media algorithms, and outdated gender expectations are influencing young men and impacting all of us.

    This isn't about bashing men or fueling division. It's about making sense of a complicated cultural shift and discovering why feminism can create healthier relationships, stronger communities, and a better future for everyone.

    Along the way, Karen and Lisa share candid stories, challenge common myths about feminism, and discuss the emotional pull of online echo chambers that leave so many people feeling isolated and misunderstood.

    If you've ever wondered how today's culture is changing relationships, worried about the next generation, or simply wanted to better understand the world we're all living in, this conversation is for you.

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Starbucks Brown Sugar Shaken Espresso
    Homemade Frozen Pear Martini

    🔗Links

    Normally we would link people we talk about on the podcast but we don’t feel like giving them any help with visibility, thank you very much.

    “Adolescence” 

    “Shrinking” 
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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

     

    43 min
  • Naomi Watts’ “Dare I Say It” Book Review |The Menopause Book Everyone Should Read

    Naomi Watts' Dare I Say It book review shines a light on the menopause conversation so many women have been waiting for. Karen and Lisa share an honest, heartfelt discussion about the fear, shame, identity shifts, and surprising freedom that can come with midlife, inspired by Naomi Watts' deeply personal story of navigating early menopause while living in the public eye.

    With laughter, vulnerability, and plenty of "me too" moments, they unpack the myths they wish someone had challenged sooner, the power of feeling seen, and why this season of life can become the beginning of something even better.

    If you're in your 40s, 50s, or beyond and looking for reassurance, real talk, and a reminder that you're not navigating menopause or midlife alone, this conversation will leave you feeling understood, empowered, and hopeful.

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    📖Book Review: “Dare I Say It” by Naomi Watts

    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Magnificent Wine Co Rose Bubbles (how do they NOT have a website ??#forreals)

    Hop Wtr

    🎧Podcast Episodes

    Andrea Samadi episode  

    HRT Episode
    GLP-1

    Karen Baskett Episodes:

    Menopause and Ayurveda

    Living Abroad 
    Living Abroad Pt 2 

    📖Books

    The Galveston Diet by Dr. Mary Claire Haver

    🔗Links

    Dr. Mary Claire Haver

    Dr. Sharon Malone
    Dr. Kelly Casperson
    Dr. Jen Gunter
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    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

     

    50 min
  • Creativity as a Way Back to Yourself with Guest Anna Beij

    There comes a moment in midlife when you look around at the beautiful life you've built and quietly wonder, Where did I go?

    Artist and retreat host Anna Beij joins Karen and Lisa for a deeply honest conversation about losing yourself while caring for everyone else—and the unexpected power of creativity, travel, and giving yourself permission to come home to who you've always been. Through heartfelt stories, laughter, and wisdom earned through life's twists and turns, Anna shares how she traded the life she thought she was supposed to live for one that finally felt like her own.

    If you're navigating an empty nest, a major life transition, or simply craving more joy, purpose, and connection, this conversation will remind you that it's never too late to rediscover yourself. Because sometimes the bravest thing a woman can do in midlife is choose herself.

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    🎙️Guest: Ana Beij

    www.anabeij.com

    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Iced Coffee
    Sparkle Hops w/ homemade Strawberry Syrup
    Wine - Malbec

    📖Books

    The Heroine’s Journey by Maureen Murdock

    🔗Links

    Poshmark

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

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    Email us anytime: [email protected]
    Connect with your hosts:

    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

     

    45 min
  • The Midlife Favorites We Can't Live Without: Beauty, Travel & Everyday Finds

    Sometimes it's the little things that make the biggest difference. From beauty products we swear by and travel hacks that save our sanity to kitchen gadgets, wellness favorites, and the purchases we wish we'd discovered years ago, Karen and Lisa are sharing the everyday finds that have made midlife a little easier—and a lot more fun. Along the way, they laugh about chickens becoming beloved pets, dry shampoo changing everything, Costco vacation wins, and the products that turned out to be total flops.

    If you're a woman over 40 looking for honest recommendations, practical tips, and real conversations with friends who have been there, this episode is packed with favorite midlife finds that just might become your new favorites too.

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Sovany Tangerine Sparkling Water
    Sparkle Hops & Home canned Peach Iced Tea
    Lisa's Arbonne Elixir - Energy Fizz, Mind Health, Skin Elixir, Gut Health, and NAD+ Cellular Energy

    🎧Podcast Episodes

    Dinner Without the Drama w/Lisa Potter
    Part 1 
    Part 2: Holiday Edition 
    Part 3: Summer Edition

    Travel With Our Kids

    Chicks with Chicks
    Kate La Plaunt - Fashion
    The Financial Feminist: “How to Turn Your Bills Into Free Travel With Shakeemah Smith (The Passport Abuser)

    ⭐️ Our Favorite Things 

    Under $50 (not really)

    Inkbird Sous Vide Stick 
    Container 

    Under $50 (yes really)

    Old Navy Ribbed Cropped Tank Tops - Sadly, sold out on the website so they must be great. Try your local Old Navy
    Patagonia Bandha tops - thrifted from Poshmark!

    Favorite Beauty Products

    Arbonne Skin Care  (Email Lisa for a discount code)
    Osea Scrub and Body Oil

    Favorite Skin Care Discovery After 50

    Arbonne Gelee 

    Favorite Product That Exceeded Your Expectations
    Marriot In Transit Conditioner (It’s not $50 - yay!)
    Brooke Shields Commence 3-in-1 Leave-In Conditioner 
    Living Proof Perfect Hair Day Dry Shampoo
    Arbonne Haircare Scalp Elixir 

    Favorite Phone App

    Local Grocery Store Apps w/Membership
    Color Note - Android
    Notes - Apple

    Favorite Subscription Service

    Fab Fit Fun Boxes
    Discounted affiliate link from Lisa for Greenlight

    Favorite Health And Wellness Tool

    Yoga With Adrienne
    Fit On

    Favorite Beauty Discovery

    Jones Road - Miracle Balm

    Things We Use That Make Us Irrationally Happy

    Japanese Gardening Knife

    Travel Favorites
    Away Luggage

    Travel Hack

    Luggage Compression System

    Favorite Vacation Purchase

    Costco Vacation Packages
    Autism On the Seas
    Palace Resorts Membership

    Favorite Travel App
    Kayak
    Travel Zoo


    🔗Links
    Lisa’s Affiliate Link with Arbonne - Pure, Safe, Beneficial nutrition, skincare, body care, and make-up that’s vegan, non-gmo, and free from 2000 banned chemicals
    Email her for 35-45% off here.

    ____________________________________________________________________💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

    📲 Stay Connected

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    💌 Reach Out

    Got a question, idea, or just want to say hi? We’re all ears.

    Email us anytime: [email protected]
    Connect with your hosts:

    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

     

    47 min
  • Cheers to Two Years! 🎉

    Two years. Countless laughs, honest tears, unforgettable conversations—and we're just getting started. 🍸

    This special anniversary episode is a heartfelt celebration of everything Drinks With the Girls® has become: a place where women in midlife can laugh, learn, question, and remember they never have to figure it all out alone. Karen and Lisa reflect on the conversations that challenged them, the guests who inspired them, the moments that caught them completely off guard, and the incredible community that's grown around the podcast. They also share exciting news about the launch of Drinks With the Girls®: After Hours, their new Patreon membership where paid members enjoy bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and early access to every new episode a full day before the public.

    If you're a woman over 40 navigating reinvention, empty nesting, changing relationships, menopause, or simply craving authentic connection and meaningful conversation, this episode is for you. Come celebrate two amazing years—and raise a glass to everything still to come. Cheers!

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Just Iced Tea
    Lisa's Arbonne Elixir - Energy Fizz, Mind Health, Skin Elixir, Gut Health, and NAD+ Cellular Energy

    🎧Podcast Episodes

    Living Abroad Part 2 Panel
    Winter Olympics
    Taylor Swift & the Patriarchy
    How Women Are Surviving the Patriarchy
    Being an Ally
    Patricia Drain Interview
    Our Favorite Binges
    Unpacking Trauma Parts 1 - 3
    1 , 2, 3
    We Do Not Care Club
    Confidence and Hormones (and Parasites!)
    Eat Pray Love Review
    Early Birds Club
    Empowered Parent Collective
    The Panini Generation
    Marie Crews on Grief


    🔗Links
    Certified B Corp
    Lisa’s Affiliate Link with Arbonne - Pure, Safe, Beneficial nutrition, skincare, body care, and make-up that’s vegan, non-gmo, and free from 2000 banned chemicals
    Email her for 35-45% off here.

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    The Conversation Continues on Patreon

    Drinks With the Girls®: After Hours 

    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

    Got a question, idea, or just want to say hi? We’re all ears.

    Email us anytime: [email protected]
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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    42 min
  • The Walk-Away Wife Phenomenon: What Everyone Gets Wrong

    She didn't leave overnight—and chances are, neither do most women.

    The walk-away wife phenomenon isn't about one fight or one bad day. It's about years of emotional labor, feeling unheard, carrying the invisible weight of a relationship, and quietly grieving long before anyone else notices.

    Karen Shatafian and Lisa Corricello-McDowell unpack why so many women in midlife reach a breaking point after spending years trying to save their marriages. Through honest conversation, personal insight, and real-life stories, they explore what happens when emotional needs go unmet, why communication breaks down, and how women can reconnect with their own voice before losing themselves.

    If you're navigating a changing marriage, questioning your relationship, carrying the mental load, or wondering why you feel emotionally exhausted, this conversation will help you feel seen, understood, and far less alone.

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Aperol Spritz
    Topo Chico Mango
    Olipop Cream Soda

    📰Articles

    Walkaway Wives - Independent

    Studies continue to show women still carry the majority of emotional labor and household management inside heterosexual marriages. (Time)


    📖Books
    What Color Is Your Parachute? By Richard N. Bolles

    🎧Podcast Episodes

    Bernadette Catalano
    Extreme Parenting


    🔗Links
    Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

    Got a question, idea, or just want to say hi? We’re all ears.

    Email us anytime: [email protected]
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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    1 hr
  • How Women in Midlife Can Turn Their Gifts Into Income | Guest: Patricia Drain

    Feeling stuck, overlooked, or unsure what's next? The answer may be hiding in plain sight.

    Career and entrepreneur coach Patricia Drain joins Karen and Lisa for a powerful conversation about the gifts women often underestimate, the confidence we lose along the way, and why it's never too late to begin a new chapter. Through personal stories, surprising insights, and one simple question that could change how you see yourself, Patricia offers a fresh perspective on purpose, possibility, and reinvention in midlife.

    If you've ever wondered whether there's still something more for you, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, inspired, and ready to take the next step.

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    🎙️Guest:

    Patricia Drain

    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Sparkle Hops Acai
    Fallbrook Winery San Giovese

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    1 hr 6 min
  • Women Who Won’t Stay On the Sidelines: How Female Leaders Are Changing Sports

    A Kentucky Derby upset. A female NHL coach. A Super Bowl-winning team owned by a woman. The game is changing—and women are leading the charge.

    We dive into the inspiring stories of women breaking barriers in sports leadership and explore why these victories matter far beyond the playing field. From female coaches and team owners to trailblazers rewriting the rules, this conversation is really about something bigger: reclaiming your voice, your ambition, and your place at the table.

    Packed with powerful real-life moments, laughter, and a few passionate rants about the patriarchy, this episode is a reminder that every woman who goes first creates new possibilities for the rest of us.

    If you're navigating midlife, dreaming bigger, reinventing yourself, or wondering what's still possible for your next chapter, pull up a chair. This one's for you.

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Hoplark - Sparkling Hop Tea

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

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    ✨ Karen Shatafian – https://karenshatafian.substack.com/
    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    51 min
  • You’re Not Okay...But You’re Going to Be: A Conversation About Grief in Midlife

    Grief doesn't just take the person you love—it changes the person you are. 

    After losing her mother suddenly and, less than two years later, losing her son, Marie Crews found herself navigating the kind of heartbreak most of us can't imagine. Yet through the fog of loss, she discovered something powerful: healing isn't about "moving on"—it's about learning how to live alongside grief.

    In this deeply honest conversation, Marie joins Karen and Lisa to share her journey through profound loss, the isolation that often accompanies grief, the surprising impact of grief brain fog, and the mindset shifts that helped her put one foot in front of the other when life felt impossible.

    If you're grieving the loss of a loved one, supporting someone through loss, or navigating one of life's seasons of heartbreak and transition, this episode offers comfort, perspective, and a reminder that you're not alone.

    Topics include grief, child loss, loss of a parent, healing after loss, self-compassion, resilience, and finding your way forward in midlife.

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    🎙️Guest:

    Marie Crews

    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Prosecco Mionetto

    Olipop Crisp Apple Probiotic Soda

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

    Got a question, idea, or just want to say hi? We’re all ears.

    Email us anytime: [email protected]
    Connect with your hosts:

    ✨ Karen Shatafian – www.karenshatafian.com

    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    1 hr 14 min
  • Why Midlife Feels Lonely Even When You Have Friends

    You did everything "right"—built a life you love, raised the kids, made the big changes, maybe even reinvented yourself. So why does midlife still feel lonely sometimes?

    Karen and Lisa dive into the surprising difference between friendship and community, and why so many women over 40 find themselves craving deeper connection after divorce, empty nesting, relocation, career shifts, or simply outgrowing old roles. Through candid stories about rebuilding community, navigating loneliness, and pushing beyond comfort zones, they explore what it really takes to find your people in this season of life.

    If you've ever wondered why making friends after 50 feels harder than it should, or found yourself asking, "Where do I belong now?" this conversation will leave you feeling seen, understood, and inspired to create meaningful connection on your own terms.

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    🍸☕ What We Were Drinking:

    Simply Pop Pineapple Mango Soda - listener supplied! (Shot of vodka was not ☺️)

    Arbonne Mango Peach Energy Fizz

    Lisa’s Affiliate Link with Arbonne - Pure, Safe, Beneficial nutrition, skincare, body care, and make-up free from 2000 banned chemicals
    https://www.arbonne.com/us/en/arb/LisaCorricelloMcdowell/?login=true
    Email me for 35-45% off here.

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    💬 Takeaways — What Do YOU Think?

    We want to hear from you! Drop your thoughts in the comments, or send us an email at [email protected]. Whether it's a story, a laugh, or a “yep, been there”—we love hearing how our episodes land with you. 

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    💌 Reach Out

    Got a question, idea, or just want to say hi? We’re all ears.

    Email us anytime: [email protected]
    Connect with your hosts:

    ✨ Karen Shatafian – www.karenshatafian.com

    ✨ Lisa Corricello-McDowell – www.nextlevellifewithlisa.com

    1 hr 4 min

About Drinks with the Girls®

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Drinks With the Girls® 🍸☕ | Real Talk for Women Over 40

Welcome to Drinks With the Girls® , the ultimate podcast for women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s…