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  • Big Fat Five: Sam Cohen (Glitter Party) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records

    What is up!? We’re back with another installment of Big Fat Five, where I invite on drummers who’ve inspired me to break down the five records that helped shape their unique voice behind the kit.


    This week’s guest is Sam Cohen—a Canadian drummer who, much like Marco Kleebauer a few weeks back, popped up on my Explore Page and instantly caught my ear.


    Sam also makes music under the name Glitter Party—a solo pop project he writes, records, and mixes entirely in his home studio up in Toronto. It’s raw, nostalgic, catchy, and perfectly saturated—DIY in the best sense of the word.


    He does a great job of setting up his backstory and artistic approach right at the top of our chat, so I’ll shut up—for now.


    Hope you enjoy the five records that shaped Sam Cohen into the musician he is today. Cheers!


    Check out all of Sam's links HERE


    SAM'S BIG FAT FIVE:


    Artist - Amy Whinehouse

    Album - Back to Black

    Release Year - 2006

    Key Track - "He Can Only Hold Her"

    Drummer - Homer Steinweiss

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    Artist - James Brown

    Album - Star Time

    Release Year - 1991

    Key Track - "I Got The Feelin'"

    Drummer - Clyde Stubblefield, Jabo starks, Melvin Parker

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    Artist - Al Green

    Album - Lets Stay Together

    Release Year - 1972

    Key Track - "Lets Stay Together"

    Drummer - Al Jackson Jr

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    Artist - The Band

    Album - Music from Big Pink

    Release Year - 1968

    Key Track - "The Weight"

    Drummer - Levon Helm

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    Artist - John Coltrane

    Album - Giants Steps (mono)

    Release Year - 1960

    Key Track - "Countdown"

    Drummer - Art Taylor


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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


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    41 min
  • The 5 Pillars of Drumming

    What is up?! Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming — a podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. My name is Ben Hilzinger, and today’s episode is a little different.


    A few months ago, I was sent a book by drummer and educator Mark Feldman — founder of Bang! The Drum School. The book is called Drumming Decoded: The Secret Code to Quickly Go From Newbie to Confident Drummer. It’s a relatively quick read at around 180 pages, but it’s surprisingly comprehensive.


    Now, I usually try to steer clear of too much “insider baseball” on this podcast because I want everyone to feel part of the conversation. That said, I also realized I haven’t really addressed beginner drummers directly in a lot of my content.


    So I brought Mark on not only to promote his book (which I do recommend — link’s in the show notes), but also to have a conversation about building a solid foundation from day one. And while this book and convo are definitely geared toward novice drummers, there are a ton of takeaways that can help any drummer — no matter where you're at in your journey.


    So, whether you’re just picking up sticks for the first time or you're revisiting the fundamentals, I hope you dig this episode. Even if you think you’ve heard it all before... you might just grow a little more.


    Here’s to the beginners — keep going. You got this!


    • Check out Bang! The Drum School HERE


    • Snag your copy of Drumming Decoded HERE


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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    50 min
  • The Drum Panel: What IS Rock?, Social Anxiety & "Networking" as a Drummer

    Episode 13 of The Drum Panel


    Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.


    For today's panel, we have my co-host Eric Urrea and special returning guest, Mike Robinson.


    Today we discuss:

    • What the hell does it mean to be "rock"?
    • Dealing with social anxiety and imposter syndrome while trying to network for your career.
    • Why the word "networking" is gross
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      Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


      For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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      52 min
    • Big Fat Five: Marco Kleebauer (Drummer/Producer) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records

      This is another installment of Big Fat Five, a segment where I ask some of my favorite drummers to break down five records that had a major impact on their approach to music.


      This week, I’m joined by Marco Kleebauer—an Austrian drummer and producer who very recently popped up on my Instagram Explore page… and instantly peaked my interest. His drumming is minimalist yet experimental, and his analog-leaning recording approach is exactly the direction I want to explore with my own sound. This is just another reason I love doing this podcast—I get to discover someone new, connect with them, and then bring them to your attention, too!


      Go check out his website HERE where you can purchase his original music, grab some drum break packs, and explore playlists featuring artists he’s either collaborated with or who’ve used his drum breaks in their own music. And some exciting news… Marco is releasing a book called Notes on Drum Recording by the end of this year. It’s all about how to record drums in a small, less-than-ideal room—which, let’s be honest, is the reality for most of us (myself included). So be sure to follow him on Instagram—not only for a bunch of reasons you’ll soon discover, but also to stay updated on the book’s release.


      Marco dives into his backstory right at the top of our chat, so I’ll get out of the way. But I implore you to listen to the entire episode—he sprinkles some very tasty nuggets throughout.


      Alright, here are the five records that helped shape Marco Kleebauer into the highly sought-after producer and drummer he is today. Cheers!


      Check out his website HERE

      Follow him on Instagram HERE


      MARCO'S BIG FAT FIVE:


      Artist - The Beatles

      Album - Revolver

      Release Year - 1966

      Key Track - "Tomorrow Never Knows"

      Drummer - Ringo Starr

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      Artist - Led Zeppelin

      Album - Led Zeppelin 1

      Release Year - 1969

      Key Track - "Good Times Bad Times"

      Drummer - John Bonham

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      Artist - Jimi Hendrix

      Album - Are You Experienced

      Release Year - 1967

      Key Track - "Fire"

      Drummer - Mitch Mitchell

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      Artist - Silver Apples

      Album - Silver Apples

      Release Year - 1968

      Key Track - "Program"

      Drummer - Danny Taylor

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      Artist - Flaming Lips

      Album - The Soft Bulletin

      Release Year - 1999

      Key Track - "Race for the Prize"

      Drummer - Steven Drozd

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      Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


      For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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      55 min
    • Big Fat Five: Dee Simone (Doechii, Alison Wonderland, Madame Gandhi) Shares Her top 5 Influential Records

      This is another installment of Big Fat Five, a segment where I ask some of my favorite drummers to break down five records that had a major impact on their approach to music.


      Today, I’m joined by Dee Simone, a Bay Area-raised dummer currently based in Los Angeles. She’s funky, powerful, dynamic, and incredibly versatile behind the kit.


      I have to give credit where it’s due—this interview wouldn’t have happened without Bill Burr. I was listening to his podcast when he gave a glowing review of Doechii’s recent Tiny Desk Concert for NPR, specifically shouting out Dee’s playing. For those who don’t know, Bill is a fantastic drummer himself, so that endorsement sent me down a rabbit hole of Dee's performances. Obviously, I have zero regrets.


      Dee has shared the stage with an impressive list of artists, including Doechii, Alison Wonderland, and Madame Ghandi to name a few. She’s done a lot, yet she remains humble and hungry, and this was a really fun conversation.


      Read Dee's Shoutout LA Feature HERE


      DEE'S BIG FAT FIVE:


      Artist - John P. Kee

      Album - The New Life Community Choir feat. John P. Kee Not Guilty - The Experience

      Release Year - 2000

      Key Track - “Rain On Us,” "Right Here,” “I Do Worship”

      Drummer - Calvin Rodgers

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      Artist - The Roots

      Album - Things Fall Apart

      Release Year - 1999

      Key Track - “The Next Movement,” “Act Too (The Love Of My Life,” “You Got Me”

      Drummer - Questlove

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      Artist - Kim Burrell

      Album - Live In Concert

      Release Year - 2001

      Key Track - “I’ll Keep Holding On,” “Holy Ghost,” “Anything”

      Drummer - Calvin Rodgers & Robert “Sput” Searight

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      Artist - Beyoncé

      Album - HOMECOMING: THE LIVE ALBUM

      Release Year - 2019

      Key Track(s) - “Life Ev’ry Voice and Sing,” “Sorry,” “Bow Down,” “You Don’t Love Me (No, No, No)”

      Drummer - Venzella Joy Williams

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      Artist - Thundercat

      Album - Apocalypse

      Release Year - 2013

      Key Track - “Lotus and the Jondy,” “Heartbreaks + Setbacks,” “Without You”

      Drummer - Thomas Pridgen

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      Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!


      🎯 Click here to order now!


      Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


      For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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      45 min
    • The Drum Panel: Self-Promotion, Authenticity in Pop Gigs, and the Double Pedal Dilemma

      Episode 12 of The Drum Panel


      Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.


      Today, we've got two fantastic guests joining the conversation:


      First up is Eric Leiderman. Eric is a producer at Late Night with Seth Meyers, where for years he oversaw the rotating drummer chair—regularly bringing in incredible drummers to fill in with the 8G Band when bandleader Fred Armisen couldn't be there. Eric’s done a ton to elevate the drumming community, and we’re stoked to have him on.


      We're also joined by Neal Daniels, an amazing drummer who's worked with artists like Liz Phair, LP, and Matchbox Twenty. Neal always brings thoughtful perspectives to the panel, and we’re excited to have him back.


      Today we discuss:

      • How can drummers authentically promote themselves online without feeling fake?
      • How do we maintain our artistic voice while making a living playing pop gigs?
      • Is recording yourself the key to growth?
      • Should every drummer learn double pedal?
      • How can drummers practice self-compassion?
      • Which historic recording session would you have loved to witness?
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        Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


        For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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        42 min
      • Big Fat Five: Fred Eltringham (Sheryl Crow) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records

        This week’s guest is Fred Eltringham! If you listened to our recent episode with Sterling Laws, you heard Fred get a lot of love as one of Sterling’s five picks—so it was an honor to finally have him on the show himself.

        And I gotta say…his voice is so soothing and calm. Puts mine to shame.

        Fred has been playing with Sheryl Crow since 2012, but his résumé also includes The Wallflowers, The Chicks, kd lang, Willie Nelson, Gigolo Aunts, Juliana Hatfield, Ben Kweller, and plenty more. He’s a steady, calm ship at sea behind the kit, and it seems like songwriters line up around the block to work with him.

        In addition to his international touring with Sheryl, you can catch him on Instagram whenever he’s doing something cool in Nashville—especially with Jules Belmont, as part of their tasty little instrumental group.

        So, please enjoy my chat with Fred Eltringham about the five records that shaped him into the musician he is today.

        As promised…CLICK HERE for Fred’s current play-along playlist…

        Cheers!

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        Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


        FRED'S BIG FAT FIVE:


        Artist - Led Zeppelin

        Album - Led Zeppelin I

        Release Year - 1969

        Key Track(s) - "Good Times, Bad Times," "Dazed and Confused"

        Drummer - John Bonham

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        Artist - The Beatles

        Album - Abbey Road

        Release Year - 1970

        Key Track(s) - "Come Together," "You Never Give Me Your Money," "Polythene Pam," "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window," "Golden Slumbers," "Carry That Weight," "The End"

        Drummer - Ringo Starr

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        Artist - Squeeze

        Album - Singles

        Release Year - 1989

        Key Track(s) "Pulling Mussels," "Tempted"

        Drummer - Gilson Lavis

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        Artist - Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers

        Album - Greatest Hits

        Release Year - 1993

        Key Track(s) "The Waiting," "Last Dance With Mary Jane," "Free Fallin"

        Drummers - Stan Lynch, Phil Jones

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        Artist - Sheryl Crow

        Album - Sheryl Crow

        Release Year - 1996

        Key Track(s) - "If It Makes You Happy," "Sweet Rosalyn," "Home"

        Drummers - Michael Urbano, Brian Macleod, Jim Keltner, Pete Thomas

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        Any Honorable Mentions?

        Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (Donald Lindley on drums) / Essence (Jim Keltner on drums)

        Mitch Mitchell - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

        Buddy Miles - Band of Gypsys

        Jim Keltner - All things: Steely Dan, Leon Russell, John Lennon, George Harrison, Traveling Wilburys

        Jim Gordon - Sessions, Leon Russell, Harry Nilsson

        Harry Nilsson - The Point (John Guerin on drums), Nilsson Schmilsson (Jim Gordon on drums)

        Charlie Watts - All things Rolling Stones

        Keith Moon, Kenny Jones (The Faces) - The Who: Who's Next, Tommy, Live from the Isle of Wight, It's Hard

        Nick Mason - Pink Floyd

        Gary Mallaber - Steve Miller Band Greatest Hits 1974–78

        Levon Helm - The Band

        Alex Van Halen

        Dave Houghton - Joe Jackson's Look Sharp

        Dave Grohl - Anything he drums on

        Queens of the Stone Age - First 3 albums: Nick Lucero, Gene Trautmann, Dave Grohl, Alfredo Hernández

        Steve Jordan / Charley Drayton - X-Pensive Winos: Live at the Palladium, Main Offender

        Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life, Innervisions

        Prince - Dirty Mind through Diamonds and Pearls

        Roger Hawkins - Muscle Shoals / Sessions / Aretha Franklin: The House That Jack Built, Respect

        Russ Kunkel - Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, Linda Ronstadt, Carole King

        The list goes on and on and on...I've reached max characters!


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        46 min
      • Records That Define the 70's Drum Sound

        This week’s episode is going to be a little different. I’m starting a new, perhaps self-indulgent series where I pose a question on the Big Fat Snare Drum Instagram and make an episode out of your responses. Maybe it’ll stick. Who knows?…but these are the conversations I have with my musician friends anyways, so now I’m just pushing record. The first question posed was “which records helped define the 70’s drum sound?”. We got A LOT of responses and opinions were certainly shared (THANK YOU!) Ihad to shave a 5,000 hour playlist down to a handful of songs. Then, I called up my good buddy and amazing drummer, Jake Reed, to chat with me about his views on 70’s recording techniques and listen to the songs with me. Please enjoy!

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        Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

        For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok.

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        53 min
      • Big Fat Five: Chris "Woody" Wood (Bastille) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records

        Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, the podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. This is another segment of Big Fat Five, where I invite my favorite drummers to break down the five records that shaped their approach to the instrument.

        Today, I’m joined by my friend Chris “Woody” Wood, drummer for the internationally loved band, Bastille. Since exploding onto the scene with Bad Blood in 2013, Bastille has become a staple of modern alt-pop—balancing sweeping, atmospheric moments with massive sing-along choruses.


        Woody’s playing is a perfect example of how space, groove, and feel can elevate a song without ever getting in the way—something especially crucial in an arena-sized band like Bastille. But make no mistake, he still finds his moments, keeping his playing fresh, musical, and relevant for well over a decade.


        Beyond the kit, Woody is just a hilarious and thoughtful dude. He even co-hosts his own podcast, Away Days w/ Woody and Piers, a comedic deep dive into the world of away football fandom. We get into all of that and more—while uncovering the five records that shaped him into the drummer he is today.

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        Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


        CHRIS' BIG FAT FIVE:


        Artist - Red Hot Chili Peppers

        Album - Californication

        Release Year - 1999

        Key Track - "Scar Tissue"

        Drummer - Chad Smith

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        Artist - Queens Of The Stone Age

        Album - Songs For The Deaf

        Release Year - 2002

        Key Track(s) - "Hangin' Tree," "Millionaire"

        Drummer - Dave Grohl

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        Artist - Smashing Pumpkins

        Album - Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness

        Release Year - 1995

        Key Track(s) - "Jelly Belly," "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"

        Drummer - Jimmy Chamberlin

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        Artist - Mars Volta

        Album - Deloused In The Comatorium

        Release Year - 2003

        Key Track(s) - "Inertiatic ESP," "Cicatraz ESP"

        Drummer - Jon Theodore

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        Artist - Nate Smith

        Album - ANYTHING HE PLAYS ON


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        51 min
      • The Drum Panel: Mental Health > Paradiddles, Signature Sticks and Dream Lessons

        Episode 11 of The Drum Panel

        Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.

        For today's panel, we have my co-host Eric Urrea and special guest, Britt Bowman (Demi Lovato, KiNG Mala, Meg Myers, Royal and the Serpent, Toni Cornell).

        Today we discuss:

        • What’s the one piece of gear you’ve held onto the longest—and why?
        • Are signature drumsticks a genuine advantage or just a marketing ploy?
        • If you only had one hour per week to practice, how would you maximize your progress?
        • Is it more beneficial for your creativity to immerse yourself in one album for a full week or explore a new record every day?
        • Why every drummer needs a creative outlet outside of their career.
        • How mental health directly impacts your drumming—and what to do about it.
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          Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

          For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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          51 min

        About Drummers on Drumming

        From the publisher's feed

        A podcast for drummers who think too much. Ben Hilzinger talks to the greats about creativity, identity, staying sane, and finding purpose behind the kit.

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