Drummers on Drumming

This is another installment of Big Fat Five, a segment where I ask some of my favorite drummers to break down five records that had a major impact on their approach to music.

This week, I’m joined by Marco Kleebauer—an Austrian drummer and producer who very recently popped up on my Instagram Explore page… and instantly peaked my interest. His drumming is minimalist yet experimental, and his analog-leaning recording approach is exactly the direction I want to explore with my own sound. This is just another reason I love doing this podcast—I get to discover someone new, connect with them, and then bring them to your attention, too!

Go check out his website HERE where you can purchase his original music, grab some drum break packs, and explore playlists featuring artists he’s either collaborated with or who’ve used his drum breaks in their own music. And some exciting news… Marco is releasing a book called Notes on Drum Recording by the end of this year. It’s all about how to record drums in a small, less-than-ideal room—which, let’s be honest, is the reality for most of us (myself included). So be sure to follow him on Instagram—not only for a bunch of reasons you’ll soon discover, but also to stay updated on the book’s release.

Marco dives into his backstory right at the top of our chat, so I’ll get out of the way. But I implore you to listen to the entire episode—he sprinkles some very tasty nuggets throughout.

Alright, here are the five records that helped shape Marco Kleebauer into the highly sought-after producer and drummer he is today. Cheers!

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MARCO'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - The Beatles

Album - Revolver

Release Year - 1966

Key Track - "Tomorrow Never Knows"

Drummer - Ringo Starr

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Artist - Led Zeppelin

Album - Led Zeppelin 1

Release Year - 1969

Key Track - "Good Times Bad Times"

Drummer - John Bonham

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Artist - Jimi Hendrix

Album - Are You Experienced

Release Year - 1967

Key Track - "Fire"

Drummer - Mitch Mitchell

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Artist - Silver Apples

Album - Silver Apples

Release Year - 1968

Key Track - "Program"

Drummer - Danny Taylor

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Artist - Flaming Lips

Album - The Soft Bulletin

Release Year - 1999

Key Track - "Race for the Prize"

Drummer - Steven Drozd

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This is another installment of Big Fat Five, a segment where I ask some of my favorite drummers to break down five records that had a major impact on their approach to music.

Today, I’m joined by Dee Simone, a Bay Area-raised dummer currently based in Los Angeles. She’s funky, powerful, dynamic, and incredibly versatile behind the kit.

I have to give credit where it’s due—this interview wouldn’t have happened without Bill Burr. I was listening to his podcast when he gave a glowing review of Doechii’s recent Tiny Desk Concert for NPR, specifically shouting out Dee’s playing. For those who don’t know, Bill is a fantastic drummer himself, so that endorsement sent me down a rabbit hole of Dee's performances. Obviously, I have zero regrets.

Dee has shared the stage with an impressive list of artists, including Doechii, Alison Wonderland, and Madame Ghandi to name a few. She’s done a lot, yet she remains humble and hungry, and this was a really fun conversation.

Read Dee's Shoutout LA Feature HERE

DEE'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - John P. Kee

Album - The New Life Community Choir feat. John P. Kee Not Guilty - The Experience

Release Year - 2000

Key Track - “Rain On Us,” "Right Here,” “I Do Worship”

Drummer - Calvin Rodgers

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Artist - The Roots

Album - Things Fall Apart

Release Year - 1999

Key Track - “The Next Movement,” “Act Too (The Love Of My Life,” “You Got Me”

Drummer - Questlove

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Artist - Kim Burrell

Album - Live In Concert

Release Year - 2001

Key Track - “I’ll Keep Holding On,” “Holy Ghost,” “Anything”

Drummer - Calvin Rodgers & Robert “Sput” Searight

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Artist - Beyoncé

Album - HOMECOMING: THE LIVE ALBUM

Release Year - 2019

Key Track(s) - “Life Ev’ry Voice and Sing,” “Sorry,” “Bow Down,” “You Don’t Love Me (No, No, No)”

Drummer - Venzella Joy Williams

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Artist - Thundercat

Album - Apocalypse

Release Year - 2013

Key Track - “Lotus and the Jondy,” “Heartbreaks + Setbacks,” “Without You”

Drummer - Thomas Pridgen

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Episode 12 of The Drum Panel

Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.

Today, we've got two fantastic guests joining the conversation:

First up is Eric Leiderman. Eric is a producer at Late Night with Seth Meyers, where for years he oversaw the rotating drummer chair—regularly bringing in incredible drummers to fill in with the 8G Band when bandleader Fred Armisen couldn't be there. Eric’s done a ton to elevate the drumming community, and we’re stoked to have him on.

We're also joined by Neal Daniels, an amazing drummer who's worked with artists like Liz Phair, LP, and Matchbox Twenty. Neal always brings thoughtful perspectives to the panel, and we’re excited to have him back.

Today we discuss:

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This week’s guest is Fred Eltringham! If you listened to our recent episode with Sterling Laws, you heard Fred get a lot of love as one of Sterling’s five picks—so it was an honor to finally have him on the show himself.

And I gotta say…his voice is so soothing and calm. Puts mine to shame.

Fred has been playing with Sheryl Crow since 2012, but his résumé also includes The Wallflowers, The Chicks, kd lang, Willie Nelson, Gigolo Aunts, Juliana Hatfield, Ben Kweller, and plenty more. He’s a steady, calm ship at sea behind the kit, and it seems like songwriters line up around the block to work with him.

In addition to his international touring with Sheryl, you can catch him on Instagram whenever he’s doing something cool in Nashville—especially with Jules Belmont, as part of their tasty little instrumental group.

So, please enjoy my chat with Fred Eltringham about the five records that shaped him into the musician he is today.

As promised…CLICK HERE for Fred’s current play-along playlist…

Cheers!

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

FRED'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Led Zeppelin

Album - Led Zeppelin I

Release Year - 1969

Key Track(s) - "Good Times, Bad Times," "Dazed and Confused"

Drummer - John Bonham

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Artist - The Beatles

Album - Abbey Road

Release Year - 1970

Key Track(s) - "Come Together," "You Never Give Me Your Money," "Polythene Pam," "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window," "Golden Slumbers," "Carry That Weight," "The End"

Drummer - Ringo Starr

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Artist - Squeeze

Album - Singles

Release Year - 1989

Key Track(s) "Pulling Mussels," "Tempted"

Drummer - Gilson Lavis

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Artist - Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers

Album - Greatest Hits

Release Year - 1993

Key Track(s) "The Waiting," "Last Dance With Mary Jane," "Free Fallin"

Drummers - Stan Lynch, Phil Jones

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Artist - Sheryl Crow

Album - Sheryl Crow

Release Year - 1996

Key Track(s) - "If It Makes You Happy," "Sweet Rosalyn," "Home"

Drummers - Michael Urbano, Brian Macleod, Jim Keltner, Pete Thomas

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Any Honorable Mentions?

Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (Donald Lindley on drums) / Essence (Jim Keltner on drums)

Mitch Mitchell - The Jimi Hendrix Experience

Buddy Miles - Band of Gypsys

Jim Keltner - All things: Steely Dan, Leon Russell, John Lennon, George Harrison, Traveling Wilburys

Jim Gordon - Sessions, Leon Russell, Harry Nilsson

Harry Nilsson - The Point (John Guerin on drums), Nilsson Schmilsson (Jim Gordon on drums)

Charlie Watts - All things Rolling Stones

Keith Moon, Kenny Jones (The Faces) - The Who: Who's Next, Tommy, Live from the Isle of Wight, It's Hard

Nick Mason - Pink Floyd

Gary Mallaber - Steve Miller Band Greatest Hits 1974–78

Levon Helm - The Band

Alex Van Halen

Dave Houghton - Joe Jackson's Look Sharp

Dave Grohl - Anything he drums on

Queens of the Stone Age - First 3 albums: Nick Lucero, Gene Trautmann, Dave Grohl, Alfredo Hernández

Steve Jordan / Charley Drayton - X-Pensive Winos: Live at the Palladium, Main Offender

Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life, Innervisions

Prince - Dirty Mind through Diamonds and Pearls

Roger Hawkins - Muscle Shoals / Sessions / Aretha Franklin: The House That Jack Built, Respect

Russ Kunkel - Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, Linda Ronstadt, Carole King

The list goes on and on and on...I've reached max characters!

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This week’s episode is going to be a little different. I’m starting a new, perhaps self-indulgent series where I pose a question on the Big Fat Snare Drum Instagram and make an episode out of your responses. Maybe it’ll stick. Who knows?…but these are the conversations I have with my musician friends anyways, so now I’m just pushing record. The first question posed was “which records helped define the 70’s drum sound?”. We got A LOT of responses and opinions were certainly shared (THANK YOU!) Ihad to shave a 5,000 hour playlist down to a handful of songs. Then, I called up my good buddy and amazing drummer, Jake Reed, to chat with me about his views on 70’s recording techniques and listen to the songs with me. Please enjoy!

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, the podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. This is another segment of Big Fat Five, where I invite my favorite drummers to break down the five records that shaped their approach to the instrument.

Today, I’m joined by my friend Chris “Woody” Wood, drummer for the internationally loved band, Bastille. Since exploding onto the scene with Bad Blood in 2013, Bastille has become a staple of modern alt-pop—balancing sweeping, atmospheric moments with massive sing-along choruses.

Woody’s playing is a perfect example of how space, groove, and feel can elevate a song without ever getting in the way—something especially crucial in an arena-sized band like Bastille. But make no mistake, he still finds his moments, keeping his playing fresh, musical, and relevant for well over a decade.

Beyond the kit, Woody is just a hilarious and thoughtful dude. He even co-hosts his own podcast, Away Days w/ Woody and Piers, a comedic deep dive into the world of away football fandom. We get into all of that and more—while uncovering the five records that shaped him into the drummer he is today.

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

CHRIS' BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Red Hot Chili Peppers

Album - Californication

Release Year - 1999

Key Track - "Scar Tissue"

Drummer - Chad Smith

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Artist - Queens Of The Stone Age

Album - Songs For The Deaf

Release Year - 2002

Key Track(s) - "Hangin' Tree," "Millionaire"

Drummer - Dave Grohl

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Artist - Smashing Pumpkins

Album - Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness

Release Year - 1995

Key Track(s) - "Jelly Belly," "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"

Drummer - Jimmy Chamberlin

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Artist - Mars Volta

Album - Deloused In The Comatorium

Release Year - 2003

Key Track(s) - "Inertiatic ESP," "Cicatraz ESP"

Drummer - Jon Theodore

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Artist - Nate Smith

Album - ANYTHING HE PLAYS ON

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Episode 11 of The Drum Panel

Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.

For today's panel, we have my co-host Eric Urrea and special guest, Britt Bowman (Demi Lovato, KiNG Mala, Meg Myers, Royal and the Serpent, Toni Cornell).

Today we discuss:

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, the podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. This is another segment of Big Fat Five, where I invite my favorite drummers to break down the five records that shaped their approach to the instrument.

Today, I’m joined by Ian Matthews, drummer for the "future rock" band Kasabian—a group that, like many of the greats, enjoys massive success outside the U.S. while somehow remaining criminally underrated stateside. With eight studio albums and a reputation for explosive, anthemic live shows, Kasabian has been shaping the sound of modern rock for decades. And at the heart of it all? Ian Matthews—the powerhouse engine behind their dynamic and electrifying sound.

We cover a lot in this conversation—stuff that will help any drummer level up their playing and presence on the kit. I also want to mention something special: If you've listened to The Drum Panel recently, you know I’ve talked about a certain project from November 2024 that I was really stoked about. Well, Ian was one of my main inspirations for those sessions.

This one meant a lot. Enjoy the five records that shaped Ian Matthews into the drummer he is today.

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

IAN'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Buddy Rich

Album - Live At Ronnie Scott’s

Release Year - 1972

Key Track - "Time Being"

Drummer - Buddy Rich

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Artist - Leo Sayer

Album - Endless Flight

Release Year - 1976

Key Track - "When I Need You"

Drummer - Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Rick Shlosser, Nigel Olsson, Ed Greene,

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Artist - Dave Brubeck

Album - Time Out

Release Year - 1959

Key Track - "Take 5," "Blue Rondo á la Turk"

Drummer - Joe Morello

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Artist - Iron Maiden

Album - Live After Death

Release Year - 1985

Key Track - "Aces High"

Drummer - Nicko McBrain

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Artist - Steely Dan

Album - Aja

Release Year - 1977

Key Track - "Aja," "Home At Last"

Drummer - Steve Gadd, Bernard Purdie, Jim Keltner, Rich Moratta, Ed Greene

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Today, we’ve got another segment of the podcast called Big Fat Five. This is where I invite my favorite drummers on the show to break down the five records that helped shape their approach to the instrument.

Our guest today is Jason Gerken, a Kansas City-based drummer known for his work with Molly McGuire, Shiner, Open Hand, Project 86, and most recently, Hum. After our episode with Jared Shavelson a few weeks ago, I got a flood of DMs from people thanking me for introducing them to Jason’s drumming on The Egg by Shiner. I knew I had to get him on ASAP. Jason’s drumming carries so much weight—in every sense of the word. I know a lot of my friends were especially looking forward to this one, so here you go. I hope you all enjoy the five records that shaped Jason Gerken into the drummer he is today.

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Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

JASON'S BIG FAT FIVE:

Artist - Chicago

Album - IX

Release Year - 1975

Key Track - Beginnings

Drummer - Danny Seraphine

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Artist - Rush

Album - Moving Pictures

Release Year - 1981

Key Track - Red Barchetta

Drummer - Neil Peart

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Artist - Jimi Hendrix Experience

Album - Essentials 1&2

Release Year - 1967

Key Track(s) - "If 6 Was 9" and other B-sides

Drummer - Mitch Mitchell

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Artist - Yes

Album - Fragile

Release Year - 1971

Key Track - Heart of the Sunrise

Drummer - Bill Bruford

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Artist - Government Issue

Album - You/Crash

Release Year - 1987

Key Track - Jaded Eyes

Drummer - Peter Moffett

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HONORABLE MENTIONS:

Artist - Bitch Magnet

Album - Umber

Release Year - 1989

Key Track - Navajo Ace

Drummer - Orestes Delatorre

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Artist - Steely Dan

Album - The Royal Scam

Release Year - 1976

Key Track - Green Earrings

Drummer - Bernard Purdie

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Artist - Bastro

Album - Diablo Guapo

Release Year - 1989

Key Track - Sing the Troubled Beast

Drummer - John McEntire

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Artist - Helmet

Album - Strap It On

Release Year - 1992

Key Track - FBLA

Drummer - John Stanier

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Episode 10 of The Drum Panel

Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions pertaining to all things DRUM.

For today's panel, we have my co-host Eric Urrea and special guest, Jessica Burdeaux (Covet, City Mouth, Host of Reverb.com's "What's That Sound?" series on YouTube).

Today we discuss:

As promised...

Josh Freese

Jason Gerken

Casey Deitz

Valerie Franco

Ulf Mickael Wahlgren

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