Richard and Eric essentially live out the Dunning-Kruger effect by talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect.  They introduce the concept and land on an important question: To what degree do we recognize incompetence — not just in others, but in ourselves?  Does it matter?  This troubling phenomenon is seemingly (and unfortunately) a ubiquitous feature of the human psyche.

Kruger, J., & Dunning, D. (1999). Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one’s own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 77(6), 1121–1134. https://doi.org/10.1037/0022-3514.77.6.1121

Dunning, D., Johnson, K., Ehrlinger, J., & Kruger, J. (2003). Why People Fail to Recognize Their Own Incompetence. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 12(3), 83–87. https://doi.org/10.1111/1467-8721.01235

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