Dear friend and discerning sorcerer Caspar, also known as De Duivelbanner van Overijssel, joins the hosts to chat all things Dutch folk magic. In addition to discussing the diversity of Dutch folk practitioners, what duivelbanners are, differences between Protestant and Catholic traditions, and types of spirits one may encounter, the gang explores the importance of situating the "folk" in "folk magic". Key also touches on a fascinating and remarkably well-preserved set of fishing and knot-tying magics inherited within his own Dutch family, prompting a heartfelt discussion on the ways living traditions are indeed lived throughout diasporas.

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