In this episode Garth and Eric interview Bill McKeachie from the University of Michigan. Bill is a legendary figure in the teaching of psychology, former APA President, introductory psychology textbook author, well-connected (friends with Fred Skinner, Abe Maslow), softball player, and so much more. The recording of this episode was sponsored in part by the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP); learn more at teachpsych.org. We are grateful to Jane Halonen for helping to arrange the interview, and to Bill's sister Linda Dicks and Bill's niece Lisa Danielson for being so supportive of our efforts.