In this episode, Eric interviews Chris Hakala from Springfield College in Springfield, MA. As the Center for Excellence in Teaching, Learning, and Scholarship Director, Chris is incredibly popular serving his campus, especially in the COVID-19 era. We discuss his origin story and his occupations progression post-PhD, and the vital importance of undergraduate mentors. We reminisce about the AP Psychology Reading a bit, the Flying Saucer in Kansas City, and close on a positive note about the future of STP.