The Inner Game of Change

E102 - Orientation In Uncertainty - Podcast With Helen Palmer


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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change.  where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. 

Some of you may remember Helen Palmer from a past episode of The Inner Game of Change. It was a conversation that stayed with many listeners because of its depth and humanity.

Helen helps people learn so something different becomes possible. Her work spans change management, organisational design, learning, and knowledge. And right now, she is living the very thing she speaks about. Returning to her homeland of Aotearoa New Zealand after nearly three decades away.

This conversation is not about certainty.
 It is about how we orient ourselves when certainty is not available.
 How we stay open.
 How we exercise judgement.
 How we move forward without locking things down too early.

Helen speaks about uncertainty not as something to manage away, but as a space to stand in with care, curiosity, and confidence.

This is Orientation in Uncertainty.


About Helen
I help people learn so something different becomes possible.

That might be a shift in mindset, a new practice, or a deeper understanding. It might show up as a beautifully crafted artefact or a well-held learning experience. What matters to me is utility — learning that is purposeful, thoughtful, and liberating.

I design and deliver learning experiences for grown-ups in workscapes. Sometimes the learning is packaged: in a workbook, article, card deck, curriculum, podcast, or social media post. Sometimes it’s embodied: in a facilitated session, a team reflection, or a conceptual model that makes complex things usable.

My approach is human-centred and deeply practical. I draw on decades of professional experience across disciplines, shaped by a fierce curiosity and a knack for turning ideas into something people can use. I’m like a Swiss Army knife — what you take when you are moving through unfamiliar territory!

He aha te mea nui o te ao 
What is the most important thing in the world? 
He tangata, he tangata, he tangata 
It is the people, it is the people, it is the people 
~ Māori proverb

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