In Episode 184 of the AIAW Podcast, we’re joined by David Wallén, CEO and Co-Founder of Intric, to explore what it really takes to drive AI innovation inside governments and critical industries. Drawing on insights from more than 50 public-sector AI implementations, David breaks down the realities behind procurement structures, governance models, regulation, and organizational incentives that often slow down adoption. We discuss sovereign AI, secure infrastructure, Europe’s ability to compete in the global AI race, and what organizations consistently get wrong when implementing AI at scale. From practical lessons in public-sector transformation to the future of AGI and human judgment, this episode examines how governments and institutions can move from experimentation to meaningful AI impact. 

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