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E214: Lisa Verrico on Vox + Oasis + Billie Eilish + My Bloody Valentine


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In this episode we invite the highly entertaining Lisa Verrico to join us from her native Glasgow and talk us through her career from IPC's Vox magazine to The Times.

Commencing with her memory of first hearing Prince's 'Little Red Corvette' as a kid on holiday in Spain, our guest recalls her days of raving (and working in radio) before describing how she got her foot in the door at Vox. Hair-raising Mancunian encounters with Happy Mondays and Mark E. Smith serve as preludes to Lisa's hilarious 1994 interview with Oasis. We hear her "bootleg recording" of the Gallagher brothers' competing impersonations of Mick Jagger on the band's impromptu rendition of 'You Can't Always Get What You Want'.

A broad discussion of what the '90s meant for pop culture takes in Lisa's memories of Oasis hanger-on Evan Dando and of the altogether different My Bloody Valentine. Clips from a 1989 audio interview with the latter's Kevin Shields and bandmates prompt reflections on MBV's extraordinary sound and their somewhat dysfunctional relationship with Creation's Alan McGee.

We return to Lisa's own story by asking her what happened after Vox folded in 1998 — and how she wound up  reviewing (and interviewing) for The Times for 25 years. We also discuss how much the live music experience has changed in that time. Finally, we hear about our guest's 2019 trip to L.A. to interview 17-year-old superstar-in-the-making Billie Eilish.

After paying heartfelt tribute to cult neo-soul star D'Angelo — note that news of the death of former KISS guitarist Ace Frehley only reached us after this episode was recorded — Mark quotes from a 1984 interview with jazz giant Wynton Marsalis and Jasper takes us out with his thoughts on Joe Muggs' 2011 interview with the great James Blake.

Many thanks to special guest Lisa Verrico. You can find her writing in The Times. 

Pieces discussed: Oasis: Shake'n'vacEvan Dando: Baby I'm BoredEvan Dando: "I get the feeling I'm being bullshitted"Evan Dando: The Smoker You Drink, The Player You GetEvan Dando: Different DrumMy Bloody Valentine audioBillie EilishD'Angelo: Soul AsylumOn D'Angelo and the Birth of Neo-SoulD'Angelo: Black MessiahWynton Marsalis: The Hottest Lips in America and James Blake: Point Blake.

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