Today's episode of Turpentine VC is a throwback to a conversation Erik Torenberg recorded with Parker Conrad and Parker Thompson that debates how much "value-add" investors can offer founders, issues around the misalignment between investors and founders, and the underdiscussed factors that influence VC deals. Parker Conrad is the co-founder and CEO of Rippling (and co-founder/CEO of Zenefits) and Parker Thompson is a current partner at SAX Capital (formerly Partner at Angellist). The conversation was recorded in 2018. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

00:46 The Mystery of Startup Bill Jackson: Unraveling the Twitter Persona

(02:11) Investor Insights: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

(05:51) The Role of Investors: From Therapists to Strategists

(08:18) Brand Power and The Investor's Influence

(09:15) The Board Pleasing their LPs

(18:57)Navigating Founder-Investor Dynamics: A Real Talk

(19:28) The Seed Stage Perspective: Aligning with Founders

(26:07) The Boardroom Dilemma: Control, Influence, and Alignment

(36:44) Choosing the Right Investors: Lessons from Zenefits to Rippling

(37:01) Navigating Investor Relationships: Insights and Advice

(38:34) The Ideal Board Composition and Investor Dynamics

(39:22) Understanding VC Power and Protecting Your Company

(41:03) Real-world Challenges with Investors and Board Members

(42:51) Strategies for Entrepreneurs Facing Investor Pressure

(43:52) The Importance of Knowing Your VC's Business Model

(45:24) Raising Capital: Balancing Valuation and Partnership

(51:02) The Role of Unions and Standardization in Entrepreneurship

(54:33) Optimizing Fundraising Strategy for Long-term Success

(1:07:22) Closing Thoughts on Venture Capital Dynamics

(1:09:08) Wrap